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SID:  Hello. Sid Roth here with Something More! And why something more? Because it’s twice the length of It’s Supernatural! television. And this is our new digital show. I want some feedback from ya. I want you to tell me what you think of it. And we’re gonna get to the point where it’s gonna be so interactive you’ll be able to send us questions while the show is on the air. That’s what my heart’s desire. I have a guest. I don’t believe I’ve personally met you, Robby. His name is Robby Dawkins but he has something to offer. The best word I know in Hebrew to describe Robby Dawkins is this guy has got “chutzpah!” Now the big question, Robby, is do you know what chutzpah is that you have? (laughing)

 

ROBBY: (laughing) I have heard the word but I am not quite sure what it means.

 

SID:  It means NERVE! It means BOLDNESS!

 

ROBBY:          (LAUGHING)

 

SID:  Am I describing you? Am I nailing you right now?

 

ROBBY:  I think my wife would completely agree with that, with that word. (laughing).

 

SID:  Now according to my notes you were born in a missionary family. You were saved as a child. But there was a major thing that happened in your life. Your parents brought a heroin addict home to live in your home. Now I don’t know…

 

ROBBY:  Yes.

 

SID:  …that I would bring back a heroin addict to live in my home. How did you have such chutzpah?

 

ROBBY:  (laughing) Well at the time I was nine years old so I really didn’t have much choice in the matter. But it was, it was my dad. You know I mean he was a…

 

SID:  No, no, no. I mean how did he have so much chutzpah? That’s the better question.

 

ROBBY:  How did he have chutzpah… I think it’s a “holy chutzpah” (laughing) that comes though.  

 

SID:  Yeah!

 

ROBBY:  Uh, yeah. He, you know he just was seeing so many young people that were just roaming the streets, that had run away, that were getting into drugs and it just broke his heart, you know, and he wanted to do something about it. And you know this is, this is back in the ‘70’s. You know it would have been in the early-mid 70’s and just, he didn’t, didn’t know of very many programs. You know Teen Challenge wasn’t in our area…  

 

SID: Uh huh.

 

ROBBY:  …or things like that so there wasn’t a lot of ministries in the area that could draw to. And so he just said we need to help ‘em. And so he went out one night, found this young man, brought him home. And my wife, excuse me, my mother was like well where are we gonna put him? And he says well you know we got a bed besides Robby’s bed. Let’s just put him in there.

 

SID:  Oh, no!

 

ROBBY:  And so, yeah, this is not, this is not something I recommend. But, but the Lord really did something spectacular with it. This story really demonstrates the redemptive power of God, I feel, because…  

 

SID:  I could have, I could have NEVER have put a heroin addict next to my daughter!

 

ROBBY:  Exactly. Exactly.

 

SID:   How old were you?

 

ROBBY:  I was nine years old. Nine years old.

 

SID:  Let me tell you, you have some gutsy parents. Okay, go ahead. (laughs)

 

ROBBY:  But they were, they were… you know this young man was just in you know terrible you know DT’s and withdrawals and terribly… and of course with heroin there’s sickness involved and he was just you know throwing up you know constantly and just shaking terribly and screaming out profanity just in pain and so I mean I saw some pretty bizarre behavior and after many days I had woken up in the early morning hours and he was just standing beside my bed and I kinda of you know jumped back in bed because you know the behavior that I’d seen from him was so bizarre. And he had his arm on the window sill. We had kind of a high window sill and he was looking out on the backyard. And I looked at him. His back was turned to me and I looked at him and I said you know I called out his name and I said you know I said are you okay? I said do I need to get my dad? And he turned and when he turned around to look at me just the whole front of his tee-shirt was just you know up at the top was just wet and it was tears. Tears were streaming down his face. And he turned and he looked at me and he said Robby, he said Jesus came in the room this morning. He said I woke up early this morning and I was feeling so sick and I just said you know God who’d want somebody like me and why would these people help me? He had been prostituting himself on the street for drugs. He had a dad who had beaten him nearly every day you know and why he ran away from home and he was just trying you know get enough money to eat and do drugs. And he said you know God who would want somebody like me? And Jesus just appeared at the end of the bed and opened His arms and He called out his name and He said I’ll take you. And he got up and he walked over and just Jesus embraced him and he said, he said, he said He just took it all away. It’s all gone. He said he sat, He hugged me and He kind of rocked me and he said it just all went away and He just began to speak all the things in my ear that I never heard my dad say. Things of hope. Things of love. Things of affirmation. And he said, and he said it’s all gone! He said the addiction’s gone. The shame of the things that I did is all gone. The hatred for my dad, all of it just left right in that moment and he dropped his head and he…

 

SID:  Yeah, but wait. Heroin addiction was an instant withdrawal?

 

ROBBY:  Instant.

 

SID:  And did he have DT’s?

 

ROBBY:  Absolutely instant change.  

 

SID:  You know did he, did he have any suffering at all after it was gone?

 

ROBBY:  After that no. No. It was instantly gone.

 

SID:  Isn’t that physiologically impossible?

 

ROBBY:  Absolutely. But not spiritually. You know God can break through. He’s made these bodies and He broke through you know just the natural barriers and transformed his physical being.

 

SID:  What effect did this have on a nine year old kid that’s hearing profanity? That’s… I’ll tell you something.  

 

ROBBY:  Yeah.

 

SID:  Yes, Jesus appearing was instrumental. But what your mom and dad did I think that broke him more than Jesus appearing from what I’m hearing you say.       

 

ROBBY:  Yeah, yeah. I mean he could not… I would hear him tell the story over and over again afterwards and he couldn’t, he just couldn’t believe that people would be that loving, that caring. You know He had not experienced that at home. You know he had experienced a lot of rejection and a lot of hurt and so he was just shocked you know that there was just that much love. And after he told it to me I ran to my parent’s bedroom because I was just, I was just overwhelmed with emotion and I just literally burst in. You gotta remember this was early in the morning, it was still kind of you know it was daybreak so it wasn’t fully light yet and I burst into my parent’s bedroom and it woke my dad up and he turned the light on and he said what did he do? You know cause he thought maybe something inappropriate had happened or that he’d scared me and because as soon as I burst in the room and I just burst into tears. And I through tears I told my parents you know trying to get the words out and choking through them I said I told them what he had just related to me. And I looked at my parents and I said “That’s what I wanna see the rest of my life!” I wanna see. Because you know, Sid, his face completely looked different. His, his… there was a sense in the room, I mean I was, I was a child and I’m nine years old but I could feel, I could feel something in that room. I could feel what I would now know as God’s presence, the reality of God’s tangible presence. There’s two people right now listening that are feeling that right now. They’re feeling that tingling…

 

SID:  No, there’s three, I’m feeling it too!

 

ROBBY:  …and that reality of God’s presence.  

 

SID:  There’s three. I’m feeling it too! (laughing)

 

ROBBY:  It’s right there I can sense it. I’m feeling it and I know and there’s two people…

 

SID:  Four, do I hear five? (laughing)

 

ROOBY:  And one of them. And yeah. You know one of them is somebody who’s battling… they’re struggling with drugs right now and right now Jesus is doing what he did to my friend He’s doing to you right now. He’s breaking the power of that addiction off you right now and it’s going now by the authority of Christ. We thank You for that Jesus! Yeah!  

 

SID:  Well, and let me take you, jump you a little bit. You’re now a youth pastor. You’re discouraged. You’re young. You get a phone call and there’s someone on the other line talkin’ about her dad. Well what happened?   

 

ROBBY:  Yeah. You know that was so incredible because I had prayed for so many people for healing and nobody got better. They got worse. And I was just…

 

SID:  I did the same thing so I can relate. Go ahead.

 

ROBBY:   I mean it…  

 

SID:  I had some…

 

ROBBY:  …it was like running joke.

 

SID:  But what, what, what, what, what. Did you ever have anyone ever die on you? I did!

 

ROBBY:  Multiple people!

 

SID:  Oh! (laughing)

 

ROBBY:  As a matter of fact it was a running joke. At the church where I worked at, the church where I was a youth pastor it was a running joke. Don’t have Dawkins pray for ya. He can turn paper cuts into cancer. (laughing) And so people… and I would pray for people and they got worse. You know and I mean it was just, and I was just like I’m gonna save people’s lives and not pray for healing!    

 

SID:  (LAUGHING)

 

ROBBY:  But something happened you know it’s so true because something did happen there and as I was… I got a phone call and I was in a particularly NOT good mood. I just had some tension things that had happened earlier and I just was, I was upset. I was not in a good mood. So there was no…There wasn’t any… you know it’s not like I earned this or deserve it. It wasn’t like I was coming off a 21-day fast, you know? It was just I wasn’t in the best even attitude. And the phone rang and this woman just she had opened the phone book and just stuck her finger on a church name and called.  

 

SID:  Huh!

 

ROBBY:  And she goes you know I and my family we’re not church people she said and you know but, but you know something is happening right now that we need help on. And she goes my dad is going in for his third heart by-pass surgery. And she said the doctors don’t have much hope for him. My mom and I had to talk him into doing this surgery. He didn’t want to do it. And she goes I need help. And I’m sitting there thinking this poor woman. She doesn’t realize she drew the short straw when she got, she got me answering the phone for her.

 

SID:  That’s right with your track record! (laughing) But go ahead.

 

ROBBY:  That’s exactly right! I thought this poor lady. And so as I started to pray I mean there was not one prayer of, of… absolutely no prayer for healing whatsoever. I was just praying Lord, comfort them. I literally said Lord I pray that he has all his affairs in order. That he has you know the proper insurance in place. I pray that cause everything I’m hearing from her he’s dying. And she wasn’t even asking for prayer for healing. She didn’t even know to do that. And then right in the middle of it I just heard the Lord say clearly to me He said “Get out on a limb.” And I was like get out on a limb? I don’t like climbing trees. I don’t like heights. I’m kind of nervous with heights. And I was like what does that even mean? And then He said take a risk.  And a lot of people say you know faith is risk and I do too now. But nobody, I’d never heard that before. I never heard a teacher say that. I never heard anybody. And I’m like there’s no risk here to take. They’re not even Christians. It’s not like God was gonna heal them.

 

SID:  You know most people approach faith without that aspect. Without risk. In other words to say well if God tells me to do something I’ll do it. There’s no faith there!  

 

ROBBY:  Exactly, that’s exactly. I say, I say that very thing. I’m glad to hear that you say it too because I say that very thing. And so I was like there’s no risk here. They’re not even Christians. In my perspective at that time I’m like  God barely even likes to heal His own kids, His own followers. Why is He gonna, why is He gonna heal one of them! And then the Lord spoke to me and said, and this is from the old King James you know from the Book of Psalms, it says “Open your mouth and I’ll fill it.” And I had heard that over and over again. You know my parents had used it as a… but it was always as a passage of provision so I always applied it to food. You know open your mouth and I’ll fill it. And I…

 

SID:  I had plenty, I had plenty of food. I always applied it to what I said. I mean take a look at me. No, I’m just teasing. (laughing)

 

ROBBY:  (laughing) I got you beat on that one, Sid. (laughing) I’m the bigger, I’m the bigger guy here.

 

SID:  Okay. (LAUGHING)

 

ROBBY:   I assure you! But I was like you know I had just eaten lunch. I didn’t need any more food. It’s exactly you know I’m, I’m, I don’t need that. And so I was like man, you know what do I… you know what does it even mean and then it occurred to me what the Lord was saying. I wanna give you something. I wanna give you. Open your mouth and go to say something you normally wouldn’t say. And so there was no… you know again like what you were saying I was expecting well here’s what you, here’s what you say. Just say this. It wasn’t there. And so I just said “You know I just really sense God is about to….” And I wasn’t sure what I was going to say next and I just, it just  it was almost like it flew out of my mouth. And it was like I had to go there with expectancy. And then it just came out and I just said “completely heal your father.” I said as a matter of fact your father is gonna have a brand new heart. God’s giving your father a brand new heart. And she did not say anything about it….    

 

SID:   Stop, stop, stop, stop for a second.  

 

ROBBY:   Sure.

 

SID:  When you said that, after you said it what was going on inside of Robby?

 

ROBBY:  Well, it was, it kind of… everything was kind of coming out so fast that I, I, it was almost like as I’m hearing it is I’m hearing it for the first time as I’m saying it you know so I mean it’s not like I’m hearing it in my spirit before. I felt an encouragement to step out and to say something. I didn’t know. I didn’t really understand about authority. I didn’t understand about that.

 

SID:  But, but you know what it sounds, it sounds to me like you had what is called a “mind by-pass.” It wasn’t in your mind. It came right out of your spirit! (laughs)

 

ROBBY:  I would liken it to that. Yes, exactly. It was just like, it was just like me saying the words “God is about to…” was, was just the vehicle to release something that the Lord wanted to say. It’s almost like, Sid, that, that it wasn’t gonna happen until I said it that way. And then when I did it just came out like that and I added to it which really wasn’t an addition cause I didn’t have any foreknowledge about it. But I said “But He’s also going to give him brand new lungs to go with it” and she’s not said anything about lungs. And soon as I said it I said now wait a minute. I just totally interrupted my prayer. And I said now wait a minute. I said you need to understand something. I said I’m no healer. I said matter of fact you know I’ve never prayed for anybody and seen anybody healed.  

 

SID:  (LAUGHING)

 

ROBBY:  And I said a matter of fact I said you know it’s probably a bad thing that I just prayed for your dad.  

 

SID:  (LAUGHING)

 

ROBBY:  I said because most of the people I pray for ended up dying or getting worse or getting more sick or things get worse for ‘em. I said you know I wouldn’t listen to anything that I just said I said because I don’t know what I’m talking about!

 

SID:  Robby, do not say that when I take a gulp of water. There could be a disaster on this set! But I’m going… go ahead.

 

ROBBY:  (laughing) And so I had no, I had no idea, you know I had no idea what had just happened. It just kind of was there and came. And so then she… I said so you know I said I mean I’ve heard of people getting healed and I know of people you know and I said sort of theologically I believe it but I just never see it. I don’t know anything about this. And she stopped and she goes you said God is gonna give my dad a brand new heart? And I just kind of chuckled and I said “yes but you need to understand something.” And she goes “thank you!” and she hung up the phone. And man when I heard that “click” (snaps finger) of that phone it was like my heart dropped to my toes. And I thought I bet this is some TV expose show…

 

SID:  (LAUGHING)

 

ROBBY:  …exposing pastors who make you know declarations of healing but actually kill people with their prayers and I just fell right into the trap. And I mean my heart started racing and I was like man, and I literally was like I’ve gotta get my resume together because I’m gonna get fired. We’re gonna get sued. I’m gonna lose my position. I mean everything. My mind started racing in panic. Now I know that to be the, the enemy. That, that feeling and that caution and all that. And you know, Sid, there’s some people that won’t pray because they feel that and they think it’s their feelings or they’ll even think that’s God stopping them from doing something foolish. And yet…

 

SID:  Well we really do have an enemy. But bottom line because we’re running out of time.  

 

ROBBY:  Sure.

 

SID:  Tell me what happened with her dad.       

 

ROBBY:  She comes back the next week, she calls me. Well she calls me later that day and she called and through her tears, I mean I could barely understand her, as a matter of fact the first time I hung up on her and she called back because I couldn’t understand her. And then, and then she said my dad has a brand new heart. She goes they opened him up. He did not have any… He had a valve from a pig to replace a damaged valve and it was completely gone. It had disappeared. Everything was human. There was not even scar tissue from previous surgeries.

 

SID:  Now wait. I’ve heard of metal being replaced with bone but this really trumps that! A pig… a pig’s…  

 

ROBBY:  This was a valve. Yeah.

 

SID:  A pig’s valve being replaced with a real valve? (laughing)  

 

ROBBY:  With a human…  

 

SID:  A human valve!

 

ROBBY:  And the doctor looked and said your dad still told the wife your husband has the heart of a thirty-year-old man. And she said you didn’t know this but he had had a half a lung removed. She goes I didn’t even bring up his lungs because the lungs weren’t the issue. But she said when they, you know cause they have to separate the ribs you know and do all that but she said when they did they checked and they saw a whole rib and they sent him, as a matter of fact they sent him for an x-ray to verify that he had a whole lung in place of the half lung.

 

SID:  Robby, this is a creative miracle!

 

ROBBY:  Yeah, yeah, it was.

 

SID:    You have just become normal! Normal as defined by the Bible!

 

ROBBY:          That’s right!

 

SID:  I want everyone that is with us right now to become normal! And so we’re making available Robbie’s book “Do What Jesus Did.” It’s actually a full package. It includes 4 CD’s. And the thing that I wanna get into actually on when we come back has to do with the “chutzpah” that you operate under but you’re not the only one in your family that operates under “holy chutzpah.”

 

ROBBY:  That’s right.

 

SID:  Your wife did something that astounds me more than the story you just told me but we’ll talk about that when we come back. But this whole series “Do What Jesus Did” package you have these amazing true stories but you have the teaching worked right in along with it. And many people say that you’ll become spiritual giants. You’ll actually emerge as a spiritual giant from this material! What kind of feedback are you getting from ordinary Christians that start harnessing this power?

 

ROBBY:  Well it’s incredible reports of people coming back that are, that are going out and praying the same way and seeing the same results. And you know I mean they’re tapping into the reality of Christ in them. You know they’re, they’re people who have been praying for change in their community and transformation in their family. I mean the answer is Christ in you and if we have relationship with Jesus Christ then, then it’s there. And the ingredients to do all the things Jesus did lives in us if we have relationship and we’ve been filled with the Holy Spirit.

 

SID:  And you teach the prophetic, you teach how to heal…

 

ROBBY:  Absolutely.

 

SID:  But you teach something that so few believers understand and ministering the presence of God! I wanna talk about that also when we come… I’ve got too much to talk to Robby about. For an investment of 39 dollars I’d love to send you the “Do What Jesus Did” package, the 4 CD’s and the Book. And I’ll be back with “Something More!”