SID:  Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Jose Santana. We believe all over the world people are having miracles, ordinary people with a supernatural God. We want you to take your little home video and tell us in one to three minutes what God did for you and the best ones we’ll put on our internet site, or you’ll see it on, “It’s Supernatural.”  My guest in the studio is Jose Santana.  Jose, I wish you could turn your gift on at will.  But you can’t, can you?

JOSE:  No, I can’t.  Only when the Holy Spirit speaks to me, or reveals things that I am at liberty to share those things, but it is not at will.

SID:  Now, sometimes you are not at liberty to share what the Holy Spirit shows you?

JOSE:  No, because there are things so profound about people, what they are doing; sinful things, that you cannot come openly at times and tell them all the things that they are doing badly.   So you have to use wisdom when to release those words.

SID:  Now, everyone would want a gift like you have, every single person I know would love to have a gift like you have. But you were telling me that the whole things God’s looking for is motive.  Explain that.

JOSE:  Absolutely.  It has to be based on the love of God that I minister to you. It has to be with the love of God that I correct you. So when I was praying years ago for the gift, I said “Lord, I will use the gift to build, to direct and to encourage people, and if it is to correct please give me the wisdom how to correct your people.” Sometimes I bring correction to a pastor who has 38 or 40 churches, so I have to do it with the most respect.

SID:  So, tell me about that one case?

JOSE:  That particular case, I asked “Lord, this man of yours that I admire has churches all over the place.” He said, “Bring him to your house, cook dinner for him, and then ask permission if you can wash his feet and in the washing of his feet, begin to prophesize the issues of his heart.”  And I did and when I released the word of the Lord, he started sobbing before the Lord.

SID:  And since I don’t know who he is, and no one else does, what did you tell him?

JOSE:  What I told him was that bitterness was hitting his heart, and he repented, because it was true.

SID:  Did you follow up; did you see that this changed?

JOSE:  Absolutely.  We are still very good friends and we do some meetings together and we network, but change took place in his heart.

SID:  Now many times before a meeting you will see something that is going on.  Tell me about it.

JOSE:  Yes.  A lot of times I am praying for the atmosphere of the meeting and all of a sudden I see this particular lady.  And the Lord said I see her like I see you. And he said this lady had been abused in other churches, she needs somebody who will love her and work with her, and so forth and so on… So I’m preaching in the church and when I see the lady come I point to the pastor and I say, “Pastor this is the lady that God showed me.” And sure enough, all the symptoms and the makeup of the lady were revealed by the Spirit.

SID:  You know what, I like specifics.  Can you think of one specific case like that, when you saw someone before service and they were exactly like, you had never seen them before, and they were in that church, dressed the way you saw them, and what was wrong with them, and what happened?

JOSE:  Specifics?

SID:  Yes.

JOSE:  Yes.  I was in this other church a few weeks ago and I’m praying and I see this lady and the Lord showed me she was wounded by many of the things in the church and that she was going to come to one of the meetings.  So the first day she didn’t come to the meeting.  So I’m looking for her and she’s not there. So the pastor said “What happened to the lady that you mentioned to me?’’  And I said she wasn’t there.   The following day I see her and I mentioned top the pastor, “This is the lady the Lord showed up.” We worked with her about her wounds and she went fasting and praying and she got rid of that situation.

SID:  Now you do something, you do a lot of things that I have never seen before, but you do something that is, let me tell you, it is outrageous!   I pulled out of my wallet a picture of my middle granddaughter. I was having lunch with Jose and I pull out the picture, and I give it to Jose, and, do you remember that?

JOSE:  Yes.

SID:  And you started telling me something about my middle granddaughter.  I have three granddaughters; you started telling me something about her that was not a good guess. You know that.  I mean you knew, this little girl from when she was almost an infant knew what she wanted, you could not sway her, and Jose, if you had picked one of my other granddaughters and said that, I would have said, “Wrong!” because they are not like that. But this one is so opinionated and so strong, and you nailed her. So you nailed her just from looking at the picture you nailed her from what I knew and then you told me what would happen in her future. Now, when you look at a picture, tell me what goes on inside of you?

JOSE:  Okay.  Inside of me first I ask the Holy Spirit, “Holy Spirit could you show me the make-up, the likes and dislikes, and could you show me the future of this particular person?” And I look and, a lot of times I just concentrate on the eyes. The Bible says, “The eyes are the windows of your soul.”

SID:  Yes.

JOSE:  So I ask the Holy Spirit, and a lot of times it is like watching a video camera. The whole information just comes through vividly, just like if I am seeing the child at home, and I’m calling out what the Lord is showing me. And other times it will be like the Holy Spirit speaking unto my ear segment by segment by segment. Ah, I was in a church in Pennsylvania just a little while ago, and the Lord said the second service to tell everybody to bring pictures. So the whole church brings 158 pictures and we put them on the altar, and the service took like ten minutes and the Lord gave me a prophetic word for 158 people who wasn’t there.

SID:  Let me tell you something.  Every one of you wants Jose to give you a prophetic word.  It’s not going to happen.  But I’m going to give you a prophetic word and it is going to happen. There is no other name given unto men in which we must be saved but the name of Jesus.   And enough is enough.  You have settled for cheap religion.  You have missed intimacy with God. Every one of us is supposed to hear God.  Maybe not as a prophet, like Jose, but every one of us is supposed to have such intimacy with God. You cannot have intimacy with God because you are not holy, unless you tell God you are sorry for your sins, and believe the blood of Jesus washed away your sins, and then ask  Jesus to be your Messiah and Lord. You don’t need my words; you just need a broken heart. God’s waiting for you. Do you know your whole history is already written in heaven, and it’s a good history; but there is a bad history for you and the choice is yours. If you choose to follow God, and you choose to say, “God, I want to hear your voice,” just like Jose did and you spend quality time with God and start reading His word, I tell you He is not a respecter of persons. Everything you have ever wanted is before you.  Choose this day who you will serve. But as for me and my house, as for you and your house, I believe you will serve the Lord. Do it now, right now.

SID:  Hello, it’s Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Jose Santana. This is an unusual show.  I tell you it is not going to be just, T.V., as normal.  It’s interactive; you are going to experience the reality, the presence, the tangible presence. Many of you are going to be healed, right as you are watching. My guest, Jose Santana, is a modern day seer, a prophet. Tell me the first time this gift started working with your brother?

JOSE:  Okay.  I would be praying in my house, and all of a sudden I finished praying and I am going up to the second floor and the Lord gave me like this video tape, and I saw these two guys planning to kill my brother. And they said when he comes we are going to put him in the front seat, and I’m going to go in the back seat and I am going to put the bullet upwards so it will not hit the windshield. So I said let me call my brother and warned him that they are going to kill him. So, after the phone rings for twenty times, he picks up the phone, he was using drugs at that time, at that season of his life.   And I said, “Tony, Tony, what ever you do, there is going to come these two friend of yours in a brown car, and they are wearing these shirts

SID:  It wasn’t a symbolic thing.  You literally saw this happening?

JOSE:  I saw the plan and I saw them going to his house to pick him up and the purpose was to kill him.  I just saw the whole thing.   So I warned him and he did not go out of the house.

SID:  This happened a second time too.  Tell me what else happened.

JOSE:  The second time I went out with my wife to this restaurant and we just sat down. Within a minute of sitting down the Lord spoke to me, “Get out of there and go to your brother’s house. So after talking to my wife for about a minute and a half she decided to come with me. We went to my brother’s house, we knocked on the door and five or six minutes later he comes down and I asked, “Tony, are you okay?” He says, “Yes, I am.” “Tony, are you okay?” He said, “I am.” The third time I asked, “Tony, are you okay?” He says, “No.” I said, “What’s up with you?” He said, “I was just this close to killing myself.”  And I said, “The Lord just sent me here to stop that.” And of course he received the Lord and committed his heart to the Lord at that particular time in his life.

SID:  Now, sometimes, you’ve told me, that you see bad things like sin in people’s lives or around them.  Tell me about one pastor that this happened with?

JOSE:  Wow.  This particular pastor as very dear to my heart and I loved him and would pray for him daily, of course. And the Lord showed me there was sin in his life and I when started to confront that area, he said, “You know too much.  Get out of my face!  I don’t want nothing to do with you.”  And he literally stopped speaking to me because I just shared what the Lord

SID:  Now, did you see the exact sin?

JOSE:  Absolutely, absolutely

SID:  Did you tell him?

JOSE:  Yes.

SID:  Could you tell me, since I don’t know who it is?

JOSE:  Okay, good, good.  And we’re not talking about his name so. It was some sexual immorality going on in his life at that particular time.

SID:  What, Jose, what makes someone that is a minister, or what makes someone who says they are a Christian, be involved in sins of that nature?

JOSE:  I believe it is an issue of people’s heart.   If you have an area, for instance, if you don’t like liver, no matter how much liver they put in front of you, you are not going to bite into it. But if you have an area that connects with sin, whatever the sin might be.  It could be finances, it could be pride, could be sexual addiction, you are going to bite into it.  And I believe people have not learned to sanctify themselves completely unto God, and there is an opening, and so the enemy comes to them with these things.

SID:  Tell me about one time you literally left where you were and went somewhere and saw things you had no way of knowing.

JOSE:  Right.  Again, one day I was in my office doing some study, and all of a sudden I am taken out of my body into this place of decision making; and all of the big shots were at this table putting a date for war to take place, and I saw the whole thing.

SID:  A date for war to take place?

JOSE:  Yes, yes, they were planning this particular time and season; a date, and they spoke like November is no good as this is a holiday. Christmas is no good because of this, and they were going back and forth setting a date to war.

SID:  My goodness, what did you do with that information?

JOSE:  I was so scared thinking God would trust me with that information and I said, “Lord show me Your ways; teach me how to pray when You show me these things.” But you know, my first reaction was, “Oh my Lord, war is coming down.”

SID:  Now when you left where you were and went to, was this another country?

JOSE:  Yes.

SID:  And went to this other country and saw the plan for the war, were you a little afraid?

JOSE:  Absolutely.

SID:  That’s a pretty supernatural event.

JOSE:  Yes, but the peace of God was with me.  I was afraid with all that information that I was receiving by the Spirit. But the peace of God was all over me when I was looking at it.

SID:  We’ll be right back, after these words.

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Jose Santana. This is unlike any show that you have ever seen before, it’s interactive; it’s supernatural. You’re not sitting back as a spectator, you are a participant. I have a man that in my Jewish scriptures is called a seer. He sees things from the invisible world, he knows things about people he had no way of knowing. He gets transported in his body to other places. He can’t do this at will; he can only do this when God shows him to do it. Jose, before we learn about this marvelous gift, I want you to tell me a bit about your background.

JOSE:  Okay, my background, I just came from Puerto Rico, moved to New York City, and I met some people there who wasn’t walking right with God.  They were dealing drugs, and I got sucked into this thing of doing drugs and selling drugs, and was doing good for awhile for a time and a season. But after a while the wages of sin caught up with me and I almost lost my life in a car accident and some people in my family was praying for me and my life began to turn around. After I hit bottom, they invited me to church and a regular guy in church gave me a word of knowledge. And the word of knowledge was that Jesus loves me. And I go “How can this Jesus love me after I have been so wicked and done such evil things to people’s life?” But the peace of God and the love of God came all over me and I shared it with my wife.

SID:  When you say the peace and love of God, do you really mean a tangible thing, I mean, did you feel this?

JOSE:  I felt it in my spirit and my mind, all around me. A peace that I never experienced before with no drugs that I ever did before, with no relationship that I had, no car that I drove, could compare to this.

SID:  So how did your wife react?

JOSE:  Oh, she thought I was crazy. She said, “Calm down, honey.” And three months later she was keeping an eye on me and saw a change.

SID:  Like what?  What kind of change?

JOSE:  I became more sensitive to her needs.   I began to help out in the house, I had never helped with anything in the house and she said “I don’t know what you have, but whatever it is, I want it.”

SID:   Now I understand that previous to this, you didn’t want to read much, but something happened to your reading.

JOSE:  Yes, I was a person who just read what I needed to know, and all of a sudden the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit of God drew me to His word, and there would be times, eight and ten hours a day that I couldn’t put the Bible down.   I was being sanctified by His word, I was being renewed by the word of God, and change took place inside of me.

SID:  That is an amazing change, for someone who doesn’t read just to want to read. For how many hours would you read the Bible?

JOSE:  Eight, ten hours a day.

SID:  Did you hear that?  Eight or ten hours a day; but then, he literally got caught up into heaven. Tell me about that.

JOSE:  Oh yes.  I was meditating in my bed about the word of God and being so thankful that He saved my soul. And suddenly, I’m up in Heaven, and I saw the streets of gold, and the angels of God in this big room but I met Jesus there for the first time. And He sat me in His lap.

SID:  Are you telling me you literally sat in the lap of Jesus?

JOSE:  Yes, Sir.

SID:  Okay.

JOSE:  Yes, and He put His hand around me, and the love of God was gushing out of Him towards me, but I felt like a filthy rag in His presence; a filthy rag.

SID:  Now, that’s unfair. How come He did that with you, and He didn’t do that with me?  I’ve never been up in heaven.  I’ve never been in His lap.

JOSE:  Well, He is

SID:  What great things did you do to deserve this?

JOSE:  Nothing; all by His love.  When I got saved, the only thing for two and one half years I said, “Lord, I thank you for saving my soul.”  That was my prayer, nothing else.

SID:  Then you started praying to hear God’s voice.  Tell me.

JOSE:  Yes.  After a while of being grateful for being saved, I asked the Lord, “Would you consider giving me this gift of prophecy?”  Would you consider? And He did give it to me. I began to see things, how people looked inside. I could hear the voice of the Holy Spirit

SID:  What do you mean, how people could look inside? You mean you could see what’s going on inside of them?

JOSE:  I could literally see how the spiritual condition was of these people around me.   Or I could go to a house, and the house was with sin, and I would be crying and sobbing to the point that I could not even walk.   People would have to carry me out.

SID:  Did you want this gift?

JOSE:  Oh, I asked the Lord for it, very much indeed.

SID:  Wait a second.  When you tell people when you see sin in someone’s life, that’s a tough assignment, Jose.

JOSE:  It is; specifically when they are leaders.  It is.  And the response from leaders is, “You know too much.  I don’t want to see you.”

SID:  I would imagine there are some people who don’t even want to be in your presence.

JOSE:  Absolutely.  Absolutely.

SID:  Well, I want to tell you something.  He is going to move into such a supernatural arena with you. Don’t go away, we are going to be right back, and you are going to have an encounter with the supernatural.

SID:  Hello Sid Roth here your investigative reporter here with Dr. Ray Strand, and I have so many questions for Dr. Strand.  For instance, I said to him earlier, “Doc, what do you think about my cholesterol numbers?”  And he said “I am not concerned about those numbers; I am concerned about Homocystiene.”  What did you mean?

DR. STRAND:  Well, Homocystiene is the cause of 15% of every heart attack and stroke in this country.

SID:  But we never even hear about that word.

DR. STRAND:  I know that and I don’t know why because it is a by-product of protein metabolism and if we simply just add B vitamins, folic acid, B-6 and B-12, Homocystiene levels come down to normal or in a safe range. And yet doctors don’t look at this because it causes tremendous inflammation in our arteries. And what I tell people Sid, heart disease is not a disease of cholesterol, it is an inflammation of your arteries.  And Homocystiene is one of those key causes of that inflammation, along with other things that people should be correcting, to avoid, to improve there risk of getting heart disease.

SID:  Now is this inflammation one of the causes of the increase in Alzheimer’s’?

DR. STRAND:  Yes it is; there is no doubt in my mind.  You see the inflammatory response is what I write about.  And what you talk about is the fact that the inflammation can cause damage and the problem there again in Alzheimer’s dementia, the day we diagnose with Alzheimer’s dementia, 80% of those brain cells are already gone. That is why prevention becomes so important; and you can help prevent that by healthy life styles, that combine exercise, eating right, and supplementation.

SID:  Now in your book you talk about, and this is what I love about it, it isn’t that restrictive. It is something that I can live with; you talk about there are good carbs and bad carbs. There are good fats and bad fats, there are good protein and bad protein, give me a quick example of three in this category.

DR. STRAND:  The best thing, good carbs are whole fruits, whole vegetables, whole grains, you know those are good.   Good legumes, good nuts, but the good fats the menstruated fats the olives the olive oil, avocadoes but the omega three are even better, the omega three you get in flax seed or you get cold water fish, they actually all of these fats lower your cholesterol they lower LDL and raise HDL. So fat isn’t bad, but then the protein depends on what fat is in the protein so we find our best protein,  Comes from vegetable proteins, our next comes from fish, cold water fish, the next best from fowl, because the fat of the bird is on the outside,  it is not marbled in the meat, you just have to skin off the turkey and chicken and then you have a lean piece of meat  even though it is saturated fat well you have to be a little more careful with a red meat and dairy products  but even then that is not the major problem it is the carbohydrate That the processed carbs are the problem. We don’t want to go to a no carb or low carb, you want to eat all of those fruits and veggies that is what that is what creates all of those good vitamins and antioxides and minerals but what we want to do is eat the right kind and any time man has processed it in any way, he sets it up in such a way that we can absorb that sugar so fast, we have got to stay with the foods that are natural and have not been touched by man.

SID:  Why are we getting so fat as a culture as a society?

DR. STRAND:  It is because of the insulin resistance that leads to diabetes, I cover this in my book,

SID:  So by following what you are saying we can avoid getting the diabetes, we can avoid a lot of diseases, but we will loose fat in the process?

DR. STRAND:  Yes, these are healthy life styles that happen to have a side affect of fat loss,

SID:  I like that side effect, I heard that 50% were we don’t know  the side effects from drugs I don’t like that,  but I like the side effect of losing weight.

DR. STRAND:  That is what most of my patience say, so we try to eat for health, we exercise for health, But what happens you get out of that insulin resistance because when you are there, you are resistant to weight loss. And you hold onto fat like a sponge holds onto water. But when you get out of it, you just start releasing  this weight and you are not even trying you don’t go hungry,  you don’t starve yourself, if you go hungry you eat right,  You get out of what I call a carbohydrate addiction. That leads to eating many more calories than we should. You can think better you feel great.

SID:  Why sometimes at night I will all of a sudden feel weak, just out of the blue is that something to do with what you are saying?

DR. STRAND:  Yes that is why nighttime eating is related to insulin resistance, Sid and that is what I talk about that is one of those  hallmark things there or eating more at night or bedtime snacks or waking up real late and having to eat.  So what happens is that is one of the signs, when you get out of it, food is not that much.  You do not demand it because we bring insulin back down we are responding to it normally and things just happen better, blood pressure drops, cholesterol drops, that triglyceride drops.  That good HDL starts to go up and that is why…

SID:  I like that better then the medicine, I have to tell you.

DR. STRAND:  And that is what I am telling you, everybody knows every physician knows there is a thing called first line or first step therapy we should be offering every patient that is developing high blood pressure, heart disease or cholesterol problems a chance to make  healthy lifestyle changes, before we start those medication. Now most doctors now are starting to get that lip service as they write the drug because they don’t feel the patient will make the life changes, or even if they do Sid they don’t feel that they will be affected and they need the drugs anyway. I have been amazed at how many patients that I have who want to make these lifestyle changes and they want to avoid the medication, what better way to avoid an adverse drug reaction, is not to have to take them in the beginning.

SID:  You know it is so simple we need help to get confused,  I say that about intimacy with God,  I say that about physical healing but when it comes to nutrition  I have been so confused and I am so glad  that you are putting some light on this subject that is so sensible.

DR. STRAND:  Well thank you Sid and it has really been exciting to see patients improve and help improve and people who were becoming diabetic not becoming diabetic they just need to know what to do and it is simple Sid, it really is quite simple, it is really kind of eating the way that grandma and grandpa taught us to eat.  It is really getting back to the way and getting away from all of these processed foods and eating foods the way that God made them.

SID:  Thank you Doctor Strand, but you know something,  As you know I have a lot of prophetic friends, and they tell me  there are diseases coming on planet earth  that all the preventative medicine all of the best doctors  the best alternative specialist that we have,  they are not going to be able to help us. But there is a defense, God says, if you will draw close to him, he will draw close to you. Now most people believe in God, most people here in the United States, call themselves Christians, go to church, but very few have intimacy with God, they think it is for something special some holy man or holy woman, no that is what you are created for, you are created for intimacy with God, God is desperate to have fellowship with you, here is what I tell so many people it is simple, get a hold of a modern English version of the Bible. Start with a new copy start reading a little everyday, and say God you promised me the book of James, if I draw close to you, you will draw close to me. And get rid of the sin it is horrible tell God you are sorry for your sins, believe that the blood of Jesus has washed it away  and ask him to be inside of you and be your lord  it is not so complex and as you draw close to him  there are promises that are like a protective shield  and these promises are Gods love,  he wants to clothe you in his love he wants you to walk  in total peace, it is all bottom line intimacy with God,  Get to know him he is desperate to know you.  Visit us at our website at www.sidroth.org

SID:  Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Dr. Ray Strand and we have found such outrageous things.  We have found that 50% of the side affects of new medications that we have; we’re the guinea pigs!  We are the ones that find out what these side affects are. Dr. Strand I have been wondering a few things a lot of things.  I hear so many people that go into hospitals for surgeries and etc., they end up getting  pneumonia; they end up getting different types of aliments from there stay in the hospital that sometimes can be life threatening. Why does this happen?

DR. STRAND:  Well you know we have a lot of patients who are ill in the hospital and we are treating them with all of these very potent antibiotics, i.v. antibiotics. And so you get resistant bugs that are more dangerous in the hospital that are out in the public, we call them nosocomial infections. So you can go in for something totally different, pick up an infection, and this is just an inherent risk, of hospitals.  They are trying to do everything right but the problem is then you get a very serious infection or you get a serious problem. And the more we seem to do…

SID:  Have you ever heard of staph infections whatever that is?

DR. STRAND:  Yeah, Oh yes, and Grant Hill in Orlando; we are finding out had a major staph infection after his last ankle surgery. We see this all of the time and these bugs are very difficult to treat Sid.  So it is serious; so you want to try to avoid having to go to the hospital if at all possible.

SID:  Now the most important question that I have for you.  As a medical doctor, how much training did you have in nutrition, alternative health, etc. in medical school?

DR. STRAND:  Well I would probably say none; maybe five minutes; but we are just aren’t taught that, we are taught…

SID:  Wait a second, I just don’t believe that.  I believe you are taught something different from my experience.  Here is what I believe; I believe that you are taught to tell people that, not to fool with those alternative things, either you are taught it, or by osmosis, every doctor outside of a few that I have ever met, has told me I am wasting my time in these things.

DR. STRAND:  That is right.  For 23 years of my practice, I said it just created expensive urine if you took some of these things.

SID:  I heard that, from doctors.

DR. STRAND:  Yah, Yah it is a waste of money, it doesn’t do any good, there’s no health benefits; and I don’t know if we are really taught that, but you just say that and as you learn it.   And the only things that can save you are drugs, or a radical surgeries, or chemo. We are so drug oriented and disease oriented, that is where our focus is, but we are really not teaching people how to avoid these diseases in the beginning.

SID:  Well worse than that, what you told me is once you get these vital signs that you have got diabetes, you’ve got your heart trouble, you’ve got your cancer; obviously the damage has already occurred.

DR. STRAND:  Yah physicians’ diagnosis disease as they are at the end stage.  With cancer, with heart disease; the first sign of heart disease Sid, over a third of the time, is sudden death.  I mean by the time that we figure it out, it is usually too late, and we pull out our big guns, of aggressive surgery and medication.  And yet we as physicians need to be spending more time and more effort encouraging our patients too you know to develop healthy life styles; because we know a lot of these diseases are related to our poor life styles.  So that we could avoid the medications and these problems, you know later on in the future, or regain our health if we have lost it.

SID:  Why is diabetes, I am going to pick on this particular one, on the increase?

DR. STRAND:  Well there is a reason: the medical community has for a long, for thirty years, a generation, has been recommending a low fat high carbohydrate diet, but over 90% of the carbohydrates we take in are highly processed; and the body can absorb the sugars from those foods faster than if you are slapping table sugar on your tongue. That spikes our blood sugar, stimulates release of insulin, we abuse our insulin, and over time Sid, we become less sensitive to our insulin.

SID:  So Adkins was right?

DR. STRAND:  Well he is right in the fact that the problem is carbohydrates, I do not believe in eliminating any food group because I believe the way our God created our body, is a fact that it needs carbohydrates.  That is where we get our vitamins, our antioxides, and our minerals, from our fruits and vegetables.  Fat is not bad there are good fats and there are bad fats. There is good protein and bad protein. We just need to know which ones to take in, and which ones we need to avoid and that and then all of a sudden we eat a balanced diet that is healthy and this is where we are starting to understand we can avoid a lot of these chronic degenerative diseases, number one is the diabetes.

SID:  So what you are saying and you have been saying every word coming out of your mouth is, we need to be proactive, rather than passive and just what ever happens, happens.

DR. STRAND:  Yah so many people just try to live life and then they go in basically at the end stage with these serious diseases and say doctor save me. Where they need to start taking on there own personal responsibility and realize hey I have to maybe do some exercise.  I have got to exercise this body.  I have got to feed it properly.  And then we need to know that we need to be taking some nutritional supplements; because there are health benefits for taking high quality, well balanced nutritional supplements.

SID:  Now let me ask you a question; you have come a long way from the doctor that said it is expensive urine.  Briefly, what happened in your life to cause that change?

DR. STRAND:  Well it always happens in your family.  My wife suffers from a disease called chronic fatigue fibromyalgia, and we lived with it for years.  There is no treatment for it.  We give symptomatic medication, but she came down with a serious pneumonia back in 1995. And what happened was in spite of taking nine different drugs.  We did get rid of the pneumonia, seeing four different specialists.  She was left with this serious chronic fatigue and she couldn’t get out of bed for more than an hour a day.  And she is a horse trainer by trade…

SID:  And she has a husband that is an MD.

DR. STRAND:  That is right, and she thought that when she married a doctor her health would improve, but boy was she wrong. It was so sad to see, but it was at that time, after four months of this, someone brought over some vitamins.  And they said try this, they helped my husband; and of course my wife knew how I felt about the vitamins; and I was even amazed that I said “Honey you can try anything because we are not helping you.” And Sid, within weeks she was better.  Within months she was off all nine drugs; she is better now then she has been in years.   And it is like the Lord took a wet noodle and slapped me across the face and said “Pay attention to this”, and that is what I have done.  I have researched the medical literature.  I spent ten years delving in literature studies, that normally a doctor doesn’t read because we always see the drug studies, but there are a massive amount of studies out there in our literature, that show us what we should or shouldn’t be doing. And that is where I have come and that is where the outgrowths of the books that I have written.

SID:  Well you know what I think is so important is Dr. Strand, is a medical doctor a specialist in alternative medicine, and a strong Christian. I believe that he has some insight for us that will change our destiny.  Be right back after this.

SID:  Hello Sid Roth here your investigative reporter here with Dr. Ray Strand and I say it is outrageous!  It is almost hard to believe that the third leading cause of death in the United States of America; you would think it would be things like cancer, heart trouble.  No!  It’s medication; is that true Dr. Strand?

DR. STRAND: That is correct.  The biggest drug problem that we have in this country are legal drugs; because it is the third leading cause of death, over 180 thousand deaths each and ever year in the US alone.

SID:  What is the reason, what is the real reason for this?

DR. STRAND: Well the real reason is there is inherent risk to medication.  There’s just, anytime even if you take penicillin, aspirin, Tylenol; there is just an inherent risk of drugs because it is a foreign substance to the body.  And sometimes a body does not like it and it has adverse reactions.  And we try to eliminate it; the doctors are always trying to look at weighing the risk of doing something, with the health benefit; and so we are always caught in this but people need to understand that there is an inherent risk to drugs. And that we need to understand this to avoid it, because over half of these Sid should and can be avoided if people just knew what to do.

SID:  Now were you, as a new MD, were you shocked when you first realized this?

DR. STRAND: Well yah, and I think that physicians even today are really scared by that and don’t believe that statistic; because we don’t keep track of them, but these are studies that have been well done, well documented.  And in my practice, you know, when I first got into medicine, I think that we are a little bit naïve.  You know, we think that we are going to cure the world, and save all these lives.  And when you first hurt someone with a medication, it is a real shocker.  And my situation was actually with a neurologist’s daughter, who came in with a serious pneumonia, we gave her a drug an antibiotic called Erythromycin, and then for her fever just gave her some Tylenol.  But she went into liver failure so bad, we had to fly her to the University of Minnesota Children’s hospital. And what they told me that this was frequent to see people with Tylenol even alone having liver damage severe enough to…

SID:  But wait a second Doctor – Tylenol?  You get this over the counter.  Bufferin – you get these, I mean that should be safe; you don’t even need a prescription for it.

DR. STRAND:  You know and that is what people think, because they are over the counter and I can get them without a doctor’s prescription, they should be safe, but yet over 80% of those drugs that you get over the counter were once prescription medication. And they do have some serious adverse affect we need to know and understand.

SID:  Tell me about another situation.

DR. STRAND:  Well another situation, is you know we use drugs for children that were really never tested on children

SID:  Wait never tested, you mean the drugs that we give children, were tested just in adults?

DR. STRAND:  That is correct, in fact, 80, 85% of the drugs are never tested that we use on children, in children.

SID:  That could have a horrific affect on a child.

DR. STRAND:  Well yes it can they are smaller they have a different metabolism system and now the FDA is recognizing that problem since 1998 they are trying to encourage drug companies to test in children, but most drugs these pediatricians have to use they just have to figure it out basically on there own. But another drug was a drug called Propulsid that’s now been taken off the market.  It was used for reflux, acid reflux in adults but we use it for children who are spitting up; especially preemie babies, but it had a very bad side effect, called sudden death and it took us years to figure that out.

SID:  You know I come from the school of thought as a little child I go to the doctor, the doctor knows everything.  But you know, and I know now that I have my gray hair, better that there is a lot of guess work involved.

DR. STRAND:  You know Sid, I think that people need to understand they should not have blind faith in the pharmaceutical industry, in the FDA, in their doctor, or in the pharmacist; because the greatest link in this chain of events in taking medication is the patient.  And you have to be really a little bit suspicious because they know there own bodies.  They know when  things are not quite going right or they might be reacting, and they need to be telling your doctor, and they need to be suspicious about it and they need to be upfront with everybody, and understand to avoid the serious problems that can happen.

SID:  But, let’s take a look at some of these institutions which I have read about in some of your books.  Let’s look at the FDA.  I never knew, that it is the pharmaceutical companies that are funding the FDA to test one of their drugs to see if it is good or not.  Isn’t there just an ulterior motive in all of this?

DR. STRAND:  Well you know it was probably…

SID:  I know you want to be protective, but I have to tell you that it appears that way to me doctor.

DR. STRAND:  Well it does.  They passed a law in 1992, called the Drug User Fee Act, and so a drug company, to put in a new drug application had to pay the FDA two hundred and fifty thousand dollars; a quarter million.  Well that was…

SID:  Why didn’t our government just fund it why did they have to pay it?

DR. STRAND:  I don’t know.  I mean we are spending all of this money why do we do that?  The sad thing is now that user fee has become so popular that over 50% of the FDA’s budget come from the pharmaceutical industry that they are suppose to be protecting us against and making sure that these drugs are safe and effective. You know we get into the effective but we are not so sure about the safe; because once the FDA has approved a drug, they know less than 50% of the adverse drug reactions when they release it to the public.

SID:  So wait a second now, that sounds really dangerous.  Less than 50, so how do they find out the other 50%?

DR. STRAND:  Well that would be the question that I would ask.

SID:  I have figured that out already; us!

DR. STRAND:  Us!  We are the guinea pigs; that is how they find it out and I call it the great clinical trial; you!  Because that is how we find it out.  The trouble is Sid, that we as a physician or the medical community does not have to report this back to the FDA even if we are suspicious that the drug caused a problem. It is a voluntary reporting system, and less than 1% of these ever get reported back to the FDA. So it is a very archaic system and even then it gets reported back to the committee who originally approved the drug; so they are not an unbiased person in this whole realm of drug reactions and that is why it takes several years for drugs like Vioxx to come off the market.  Or people…

SID:  I have often wondered about all of these television commercials that we are having now on drugs now, and we don’t even know 50% of the side affects.  I mean a famous rabbi said if a blind man leads another blind man; won’t they probably fall into a ditch?  Fifty percent of us are falling in a ditch on drugs that are new, because we don’t know the side affects.

DR. STRAND:  Yah and the sad thing is, is that the FDA puts this on us and we are trying to approve these drugs and yet we don’t know what they are causing.  But the question should be why are the drug companies advertising on television, the magazines, and all of this, to a public, that they can only get the drug, only if the doctor prescribes it?  Well the studies show Sid that if you go in and ask for a specific drug that you saw on television, 90% of the time you come out of the doctor’s office with that exact drug.  That is why the drug companies are advertising to the public.

SID:  Oi Vey!  Listen we are being sold, on our television sets to buy drugs, and they don’t even know 50% of what is going wrong with the individual who takes these drugs. I mean, I am telling you this is very serious business!  But there is an answer.  Don’t go away, we will be right back.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Katie Souza. And Katie, there’s something called soul wounds, and these are just things that we’ve carried with us, hurts, etc., that we’ve carried with us our whole life. Are you finding that this Glory Light gets rid of these soul wounds quickly?

KATIE: Yes. It’s the accelerated tool that Jesus is imparting now in this season for us to be able to put on people’s soul wounds to get accelerated healing.

SID: Well you must have had a lot of soul wounds with the life you lived.

KATIE: Oh yeah.

SID: Tell me one instance where you got free of a soul wound.

KATIE: Well soul wounds are formed by sin. Someone either sinned against you or you sinned against yourself, like I did on numerous occasions. And because they’re formed by sin they give the demonic the legal right to torment you. And that torment can manifest in physical diseases. So I was gong on tour in Virginia, and as I pulled up into the airport, as soon as I arrived in this new territory I had never been in before I started to get really, really sick. I had 103-degree temperature. I had a very severe bladder inflection, yeast infection, could barely think, sore throat, the works. Now in the past when I get sick if I were to get sick that fast I would be roaring and rebuking the demonic and all that. But now I understand what Jesus was talking about in John 14. He said, “The prince of this world is coming, but he has nothing in me that’s in common with him, so he has no power over me.” You see, Jesus came as a man. He had a soul, too, and a spirit. But he had no sin in him. So he had no wounds in his soul formed by sin. So there was nothing in him–

SID: That was a much better way to start life than the way I started and you started.

KATIE: Exactly. But now he’s giving a tool where we can head in that direction.

SID: We get restored.

KATIE: Get restored to what our original creation we’re supposed to be. And so when I saw that teaching I knew that if we can begin to be like Jesus and apply the Glory Light to our soul then there will be nothing in us that’s in common with the demonic, so the demonic will have no power over us. You see, this is what we’ve been missing. We’ve been rebuking and fighting, and warring, and we’re not winning the war and we wonder why. Well if you still have a wound inside your soul formed by sin the demonic still has a legal right to harass you. So here I am getting sick, and I’m thinking, okay, there must be something in my soul, a wound formed by sin that’s in common with the demonic in this region, and it’s giving them a legal right to make me sick. Okay, so instead of warring I lay down and position myself to receive Glory Light on my soul. And in the teaching today we give step by step, really biblical cool instructions to show people how to do that. So I begin to put the Glory Light on my soul and I saw a vision. I saw five wounded beings hiding in rooms. They represented different rooms inside of my soul. And God said, “Go in and get them and bring them out, into the Glory Light.” So I got them all out of these closets and they were all gathered together. And suddenly the spirit of the Lord just surrounded them with glory and with light, and they were healed. Well after that happened I was like, okay, now those wounds are healed. Now I can fight the demonic. So I began to call that spirit to come up and get out of me. And Sid, it came up and it spoke to me in an audible voice.

SID: Really?

KATIE: The nerve. Yes. It was the freakiest encounter I ever had. And it spoke in a voice so loud I would fill this entire studio. It came up and it said this to me, it said, “What do you want?” And I said, “I want you to get out in Jesus’ name!” And he came up out of my body, and as he did I felt his tentacles, I didn’t even know, wrapped around my body, ripping off my body and I was healed.

SID: Now tell me someone else that the Glory Light restored their soul.

KATIE: Well there was a woman in one of our meetings, and we were positioning everyone to soak in the glory and the light. And so she was laying there and she saw a vision, too. She saw herself laying on this stone slab, and on top of her was this rubber doll. It looked just like her, but it was all bloated and fat, and ugly. And these demons had pinned this doll on top of her body and she couldn’t get out from underneath it. And she knew in her spirit that the Lord was telling her, “That is what the demonic has put on your soul, to make you feel like that’s the way we look: bloated and fat, and ugly.” So she just began to focus on the Glory Light and putting it on her soul. And all of a sudden she saw this blaze of light fly in the room and pop the rubber doll, and it deflated, and she was able to escape out from underneath the clutches of these demons. Well that happened like in the very part of the month of December. Okay, now you know that month of December is the month when everybody eats all their goodies for Christmas and all that other stuff. Okay, so she went through that whole holiday season eating the treats and everything else, and without even trying she lost 15 pounds just in three weeks.

SID: So this Glory Light restores us to the way Adam was.

KATIE: Yes. It goes back and systematically it can go through time. It can go to every place where you are wounded, when somebody abandoned you or molested you, or did something to hurt you, or if you got off of drugs or alcohol. It can go back and you put the blood on the sin and the Glory Light on the wound, and you get healed. You know, the man of the spirit of legion, you know why he was able to be under the power of that spirit?

SID: Why?

KATIE: It’s because he lived out of his wounds and his soul. It says three times in that scripture that he lived among the tombs, and night and day he was among the tombs, right? I thought, that’s very interesting. It says that three times. I wonder what that word “tombs” means. And I looked it up and it means, “a monument set up to cause a perpetual remembrance.”

SID: So that’s what buried into our souls, that memory.

KATIE: Yes, exactly.

SID: So the Glory Light burns out that memory.

KATIE: Exactly. You know in that same chapter when Jesus meets up with that spirit of legion, that spirit says this to Jesus: “Oh Jesus, what is there in common between us? Do not begin to torment me.” Remember what Jesus said, right? “The prince’s rule is coming, but there’s nothing in me that’s in common with him.” So he has no power over me. That spirit recognized, “Hmmm, this man Jesus has something different about him. He’s got no soul wounds. There’s nothing in his soul that’s in common with me, so I can’t torment him.”

SID: Katie, when you got to prisons you have to do things quickly, because and that’s what the tools that God has given you, is to speed things up.

KATIE: Yes.

SID: Could you pray a prayer for our viewers right now for the healing Glory Light of the Messiah to enter them and heal them right now.

KATIE: I decree right now that the Glory Light is literally going back in time through your soul to every place where you were wounded. Maybe someone abandoned you or deserted you. Maybe a friendship hurt you. Maybe something your husband or your wife has done. The Glory Light is gonna go right now to that place. The blood of Jesus will take care of the sin, but the Glory Light will then heal that wound. And I command that every would inside your soul get systematically more and more healed in the glory until you’re completely healed, and every part of your mind, your will and your emotions. And I speak to the demonic that’s been tormenting you, that’s been attached to those wounds inside your soul. And I say to you now, I release King Jesus on you. King Jesus, he is the king of kings. There is no king higher than him. And every king and every power master spirit that’s attached to the wounds in your soul is gonna have to go when those wounds are healed in the Glory Light. And I command angels to come and shine light into your soul and for them to escort out to the pit the enemy that would assail your physical body, your emotions, mental disorders. These are all are gonna be healed right now as God takes his Glory Light and puts it in your soul right now in Jesus’ name. In Jesus’ name.

SID: Do you know I believe that, as a matter of fact, you’re getting a lot of good results with people with mental problems and emotional problems.

KATIE: Yes. Bi-polar diseases have been healed. Depression has been healed. People say they feel like a hand scooping through their mind and clearing out their mind. When people soak in the Glory Light they come out and they talk different. They look different. Mental disorders, it’s your mind, and that’s part of your soul, and the enemy can come. If you have a wound in your soul it can come and manifest on a disease.

SID: As you’re watching us right now that glory is just pouring. It’s like a river. It’s like a river pouring into your deepest most being now in Jesus’ name right now.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Katie Souza. And I’m so excited. She has gotten revelation on how if you can get rid of the top dog, the top demon that’s got a stronghold over your life you can get him then all the other demons flee. And you had to learn this because you deal with people in prisons, large numbers. You can’t deal with them one on one. You had to understand these principles. And she calls it the King Killer Anointing. Explain.

KATIE: Well if you go to the top, I mean Jesus said it. If you take out the strong man then you can ransack his house. So Jesus did it, too. And in Ephesians 6 it shows us the order: despites, powers and master spirits. Despites are kings. No king is a king unless he has a kingdom underneath him. So you go to the top and then the rest will begin to just submit to you. This is one of the keys to mass deliverance, to be able to do things, deliverance on an accelerated manner. With Mom, she was our example and we learned from her. And there was something blocking her healing. And when I asked the Lord what it was He began to give me this download. She’s not the only one that’s having a blocked healing. And when I asked God to show me who is the specific king that’s over Mom right now I got quiet, and in my mind I heard Isaiah 14. Well I went to it, Sid, and it was about king. His name was a satanic king of Babylon. Now in the natural Nebekenezer, King of Babylon was the king that took the Israelites into physical captivity. Right? In the supernatural that’s what the satanic king of Babylon does, too. Same job. He takes God’s people into physical captivity through sickness and disease. When you read Isaiah 14 it says all these words that show his job description that are totally tied in with physical disorders. It says that he, “weakens us”, that he “causes us pain and he lays prostrate”. It means that he is a king whose assignment is to cause us to be in physical captivity. So when I got this revey about him I was like, okay God, I don’t even know how to fight him, which the stuff we’re offering today, we give step by step medical instructions so they’ll know exactly how to–

SID: That’s wonderful.

KATIE: Yeah it’s amazing stuff. So I had the most important thing. I had the Word of God. So I took Isaiah 14 and I said okay, I’m gonna fight this king and I’m gonna win with the scripture. And I began to decree it against him in the position of warfare. And my whole body started to just be on fire. My back was on fire. My legs were on fire. And one of the things it says in Isaiah 14 is that we can take a taunt up against him and command him to fall from his position in power in second heavens ‘cause that’s where his throne is. So I began to do that and I commanded him, “Fall in the name of Jesus! Fall! Fall! Fall!” And suddenly in an open-eyed vision I saw this being. It was him and he was falling down through the clouds from the sky to the ground. And I was like, wow God, what is that? And the Lord reminded me of this story when Jesus set up the 72 with the Matthew 10 anointing, the same anointing I had gotten at Bethel. And it says that when they came back they said, “Even demons submitted to us in your name.” And Jesus said this: “I saw Satan fall like lightening from the sky.” He knew that Satan’s kingdoms, his kings in the kingdoms, had fallen from the positions of power when his disciples when out with this anointing.

SID: Well that’s what you saw in your vision.

KATIE: Exactly. And from that moment on, Sid, supernatural miracles just started breaking out.

SID: Let me start out with your mom. You’re in another country. You’re in Australia. What happened?

KATIE: Well that happened six months later. Okay. She had first gotten healed of an addiction to delaudid that she had been addicted for ten years. And then I go to Australia–

SID: Out of curiosity, was it a gradual getting free of that addiction?

KATIE: Within three days. About 30 days later she had a breakthrough, and in three days she was delivered.

SID: How long had she been addicted on it?

KATIE: Ten years.

SID: Wow.

KATIE: The same, it’s like heroin. It’s a prescription equivalent of heroin. And when she got healed of that then there are all these other people that we removed the Babylonian king off. They begin to get major breakthroughs. Instant healing of viruses. Instant healing of pneumonias. We had a guy with an incision that got infected and it had pus in it. We broke the Babylonian king off him, commanded it to be healed, his hand got warm. Totally healed. He went to the doctor the next day and they were like, “Your hand is perfectly well.” People with heroin addictions instantly healed of their withdrawals. People with DTs instantly healed. Once we found out about this king and we started to remove him off people signs and wonders started breaking out everywhere we went.

SID: Now you have another tool that is so important. We’ve talked about it previously. It’s called the Glory Light. Explain that to me.

KATIE: Well Malachi 4:2 says, “The center of righteousness,” meaning Jesus the Messiah “arises with the healing in his wings and his beams.” The beams there are talking about beams of light and the wings that represents the prayer shawl, which represents the Glory Cloud. So Jesus arises with healing in his glory and his light. And you were talking about Australia earlier. Well when I went to Australia the Lord said, “Now I want you to start moving in that revelation and releasing light.” You can even release it long distance ‘cause light travels 186,000 miles per second, right? So he said, “I want you to start releasing Glory Light on your mom’s hip,” the

other hip she had.

SID: From Australia?

KATIE: From Australia, okay, to get it healed. So I began to press into my faith to release the Glory Light. And so I called her two days later. Now she doesn’t know I’m doing this, and she goes, “I’ve had this angelic being coming into my room and he’s beaming light into me.” And I was like that’s what I’ve been praying for. And so the Lord began to show me how her other hip, which they were going to take out because it was being degenerated by the disease, was being restored. And so I’m in the plane. God’s saying that hip is being restored in the Glory Light. He goes, “But now the leg bone is out of the socket.” He says, “So now I want you to do some thundering.” I said, “Thundering?” So I go, “Okay, what’s thundering?” I did a word search in Bible Gateway, and it was in the scripture about the valley of dry bones. In the verse it says, “And there was a thundering, a shaking and a rattling, and the bones came together, bone fits bone.” So I fly home. I run into her house. I don’t even tell her what I’m doing. I began to command the bones to come together, bone fits bone so that the leg bone would go into the hip socket. She’s laying there. She has no idea what I’m doing and she goes, “Ow! Ow!” I go, “What’s going on?” She goes, “I have a pain.” I said, “What kind of pain?” She goes, “Well it wasn’t really a pain. It was more like the feeling of when the ball of a truck goes into the hitch of a trailer.” Didn’t have to touch her anything, Sid, and the bones came together.

SID: Now you were just learning about the Glory Light of God. What type of miracles are you seeing as you release the Glory Light of God?

KATIE: We’re seeing all kinds of things happen. Skin, bones, ocular eye diseases. We’ve had a couple people healed of eye disorders.

SID: You had the melanoma you were talking about.

KATIE: The light was in that glory, too, and it dried up and came off my leg. Within three days it just dried up when the glory light was applied.

SID: I want to hear more about this. We’ll be back in just a moment.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Katie Souza. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. Hard to believe as I talk to Katie that she was into drugs, had her own meth lab, high speed car chases with guns. She was a collector for drug debt. She went to prison, but you got into a relationship with the Lord. He supernaturally got you out of prison. He’s such a good guy.

KATIE: Yes.

SID: But tell me a bit about a few years later after you got out of prison supernaturally, you went to a church called Bethel Church. Why did you go there?

KATIE: Well my mom had been really sick for like 25 years. She got bit by a limes tick and it releases spiral bacteria into her body, and then she got severe rheumatoid, and it started to eat the bones and the cartilage in her body. She lost her knees and they put artificial ones in. She lost her left hip and they put an artificial one in, and then they had to take it out because the disease ate the plastic parts of the man-made hip. Crazy.

SID: So you had heard that there a lot of miracles going on at that church. You didn’t know anything about it. You go to this church called Bethel Church. Where is it located?

KATIE: It’s in Reading, California. And I didn’t even know anything about Bethel. God just commanded me to go there. He said, “When you go I’m gonna give you the Mathew 10 anointing that drives out demons and heals the sick.” So I get on a plane, which is like three planes later I’m there. It’s a big deal for an ex-con like me to take a trip, and I go. And when I’m there I find out it’s world famous for signs and wonders. And like the second night in one of the services two women put their hands on me and the liquid power of God filled me up and I received that anointing.

SID: What did you feel when this happened? What was actually going on with you?

KATIE: It’s like I felt like thick liquid was filling me up, and my arm got heavy. I was actually kind of walking around like this. And so I knew, ‘cause I had a tangible experience in my physical body, it’s like, wow, I don’t have to use my faith. I know something really big happened.

SID: Okay. So she knows something big happened. She knows because God has told her that now she can pray for the sick and they’re going to get better. And the most important person for her to pray for is her mom. So she goes there. Great woman of power. You put your hands on your mom. What happens?

KATIE: Well I have all the promises, as God said, something great was gonna happen. I got this anointing now. And when I put my hands on her I felt this heat generating that I had never felt before. So I’m getting excited and I’m thinking, yeah, she’s gonna jump up and be healed. And I pray and pray, and nothing happens. The next day nothing happens. Third day, the same thing. But then my father who had just come back from the emergency room, they had scheduled him for two major surgeries on his prostate, and when he came back I laid hands on him and he was instantly healed. Two weeks later he goes to the doctor and they cancel the surgeries.

SID: Okay, so I don’t get it. You feel all these feelings, the heat. You’re praying for your mom. You know you receive this. Nothing happens with her. Your father is instantly healed, instantly has a miracle. Well what was the blockage with your mom?

KATIE: So I’m asking God that question, like what’s going on? And He said, “I want you to read that scripture in Matthew 10 about the anointing he just got and look at the order in which Jesus talks about the anointing.” So I looked and it said, “Jesus gave them the anointing, one drive out demons and two, heal the sick.” And when I saw that the Lord said, “Sometimes you got to first drive out demonic powers that are making people sick before you can then heal the sick.” So I’m like, all right. I’m going to do that. And so I started praying every demon off of Mom on the face of the planet, and nothing happens. So I’m like, okay God, what’s going on now? And He said, “Well you’re fighting. You’re doing the right thing. But now it’s about order and you’re fighting the enemy in the wrong order.” You see, the kingdom of darkness operates like an army and it has ranks. And the Lord told me, “You can’t fight your way from the bottom of the ranks up. You got to learn how to start from the top and go down.” And when He said that He took me to that Ephesians scripture in 6:12, and in the amplified it says the order, it shows the order in which the demonic kingdom operates. It says that, “We rest on the flesh and blood, but against the despites of the powers and the master spirits.” And the Lord says, “That’s the order.” So what’s a despite, because that’s the first thing in the order. It’s a tyrant king. And no king is a king unless he has a kingdom underneath him. And so who’s in his kingdom? The next two on the list, the powers and the master spirits. I mean, the word “powers” in Webster’s means “orders of angels”. So there’s the ranks. And when I saw that I go, okay, God spoke and He said this. He said, “If you’ll learn how to fight and defeat the king then the powers and master spirits underneath him in his kingdoms will just submit to you.” I’m like, okay then. Where’s that in the Bible? And He said, “In David and Goliath.” So I went to the story, Sid, and I saw proof of what God was saying. It said that the Israelites and the Philistines were lined up in battle and ready to fight, but they were fighting because they had a champion, a top dog doing the fighting for them. And everyday Goliath would come up and he’d say this, “Choose a man from amongst yourselves and he can come down to me and defeat me then we,” meaning me and my army, “will submit to you.” And that’s what happened. David goes. He cuts Goliath’s head off right in the front of the Philistine army, which symbolizes the removal of his headship of his covering. And the very next verse says, “And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead they fled.” They didn’t rise up and fight, Sid. When they their champion of their headship of the covering was dead they fled without a fight. And that’s the way the demonic kingdom works. If we learn how to go to the top and remove these kings from the position of power then the powers and master spirits underneath them will just have to submit to us. It’s way easier that way.

SID: And you know what I’m excited about, Katie, is she has supernatural, she knows how to ascend into Heaven to get revelation and she brings it back to Earth, and she has discovered what she calls the king killer anointing. Get the head, cut it off and all the little bitty demons underneath the head, they have to flee as if in fear. Don’t go away. Be right back after this word.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Ricky and Dot Roberts. And this is such fun. I hope you’re having the fun. When I see God show up, to me that is fun. Now Dot, we were talking about, here your son is, 300 pounds, can’t hack it in special education. They literally said “Take him out.” And a prophet says “You tell those people to move him to the 10th grade.” They think you’re mashuga, that’s a Hebrew word for crazy. You’ve been praying and fasting, you’re persevering. Did it cross your mind that maybe, maybe…

DOT: Not one thought.

SID: Not one thought. You knew it was going to happen. Ok. Today, tell me about your son’s accomplishments.

DOT: Right now, he has 5 doctorates and 2 PhD’s.

SID: Did you get that? 5 doctorates, 2 PhD’s; Now Ricky, are these all honorary type things?

RICKY: Oh no, I earned every one of them.

SID: Tell me what one or two of them are.

RICKY: Well I have a doctorate in ancient Greek, doctorate in ancient Hebrew, doctorate in Theology.

SID: Well listen, that is a wonderful miracle. But there’s something better. You went from three points above a moron to brilliant. You told me, Dot, that he was tutoring the students in the 10th grade.

DOT: That’s right. In about three weeks he was tutoring the students that called him moron.

RICKY: It’s not my ability; it’s the ability that God gave me. What’s so interesting is, God warned me. He’s warned me many, many times. He says “The One that giveth can always taketh away.” So what He’s warned me about, if I ever fall, He would strip away all that He has given me. So I walk very carefully and I walk in the fear of God.

SID: You know what I notice about you? In most men of God that I talk to, I give an idea and they say “Oh, ok.” You will never do that. Every time I say something to you, you say “I will pray about it.” And you mean it.

RICKY: I do.

SID: Some people say that’s just a copout, but listen. Your heart must go out when you see young kids that are exactly the way you were.

RICKY: I do, I do.

SID: And you know, there are parents watching right now like you Dot, that are weeping. They’re crying right now.

DOT: I saw one last night in my spirit.

SID: They are crying right now for their children. And Ricky, if you will, look in the camera and pray for the parents.

RICKY: Amen.

SID: No. Dot, you pray for the parents, and Ricky, you pray for the children. Dot, will you pray for them to persevere and not give up?

RICKY: Gift of faith.

DOT: Precious Heavenly Father, we thank you today for this opportunity to come to lift up mothers and fathers that are in the same situation I was in at one time. I’m so thankful that the word of God says you have no special people, no special person. But what you do for one, you’ll do for another. Last night at 3 o’clock in the morning, you showed me a lady sitting. She was so mad and angry with you. She thought you had put this on her child, and she had no help. Father, I ask you in the name of Jesus to touch that lady right now, and let her get in the word of God and find out that you didn’t do this. This was a trick of Satan. And you don’t love my son any more than you love her child. And Father, all the people, when they come to our meetings and I see those children begin to get better and better and better, what a joy it is in our spirit that we know we serve a living God. And I ask you now to let the Holy Spirit go out into TV land to every person, every mother, every father that has a handicapped child. I ask you father to give them the gift of faith. You said one time I would lay hands on people and they would get the gift of faith. This is the faith that is needed for this kind of miracle. I ask you to send if forth now in the name of Jesus, and give them the kind of faith that they will stand firm and not give an inch. And Father, I ask you to blind them to the condition of their child, and let them to see that child as he will be when you heal him. In the name of Jesus, amen.

SID: Ricky, continue. Pray for those children right now. You see those children. You look at them.

RICKY: Yes, I see them. Father, in the name of your Son Jesus, not by might only, but by the word, the blood, and the cross, come in. Father, we invoke the power of Almighty God, that dunimis power, that will touch these children. I see Down’s syndrome being healed, mental retardation of various types being healed, and also I see learning disabilities instantaneously being healed. People begin to understand that God transcends the physical, and He can even heal the mental. Here comes the anointing! (speaks in tongues) Glory.

SID: I’m going to tell you something. If you didn’t catch that faith, if you didn’t catch that healing, go get a tape and listen to it again. I mean it was so powerful I was lifted up in the spirit, and I heard people being healed, especially of pain; because there are many mothers and fathers that were healed of pain when Dot was praying. I mean I saw the tears – I didn’t see them, I felt the tears. But people’s backs were just supernaturally healed. It was almost like – crack! – and the back came together. But the greatest healing of all, the greatest healing of all, is not religion. The greatest healing of all is for you to know the Creator of the universe loves you, that you’re not just a computer number, that you have a purpose, a destiny. You are special, you are loved, and God Himself is for you. And God has never stopped loving you, nor will He ever stop loving you, because that is His nature. But your sins have separated you from the love of God. And there’s something you can do about it. God can’t do anything. He’s already done it 2,000 years ago. He sent His best, His Son, to die in your place. And by His blood, your sins were not just covered, as was under the old covenant, but it’s a better covenant. Your sins, He says, “I God will remember no more.” As if they had never existed. And so you have an opportunity to start life fresh. No matter what you have done, this is your moment. And the choice is not God’s. You are called, chosen, purposed, loved, selected. And you could not be watching us right now if you had gone too far. The choice is yours. Are you going to turn from what you’re doing? You say you don’t have the power? Correct. You don’t. But if you turn from the sin you know you’re involved in – that adultery that you’re involved in, that pornography you’re involved in, that homosexuality that you’re involved in, that lying that you’re involved in, that addiction that you’re involved in – and turn to God and say “Jesus, help.” Heaven is closer to earth than ever before in history. Just one word away. The word is, in Hebrew – Yeshua, in English – Jesus. Tell God you’re sorry for your sin. You believe the blood of Jesus washes away your sins, and it’s as if you have never sinned before. God says “I remember your sins no more. And I want to take your hurts.” And say out loud with your mouth “I make Jesus my Messiah and Lord. Live inside of me. Become real. Give me the power to not have to do these sins. Amen.”