It’s Supernatural

Sid:  My guest is Red Hot for the Messiah, you know it says to him who is forgiven much, they love much.  My guest, Nasir Siddiki comes from an Egyptian background, in fact if you go back enough generations his great ancestors were Mohammed’s best friend.  So he doesn’t know Jesus, he develops a sickness, he’s dying in the hospital and Jesus comes in; and the way he started by having a healing from Jesus.  By the way Nasir do you believe when Jesus came into that hospital room there was transference of healing as well as revelation of who he was?

Nasir:  Absolutely yes, had there not been a transference of healing I would have had an experience to get saved but I would have still been sick.

Sid:  You probably would have died too.

Nasir:  Yes, the next morning the doctor’s said, “That he has gone into remission.”  So definitely the answer is yes.

Sid:  Okay, now the miracle of miracles both Nasir and his wife get physically healed.  His wife had MS and she was in horrible shape.  They both should have died, but she was healed through understanding the word.  Nasir was healed through a sovereign act of God.  In your experience it seems to me also Nasir that most people are healed the way that your wife was healed.

Nasir:  Yes, I did a study in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and of the nineteen healing that are recorded 2/3 Jesus either said or implied by your faith you have been healed.  And so my wife’s healing was by her faith in the word that she had built by hearing the word.  My healing was by the gifts of the Spirit.

Sid:  Now the systems tried to come back on both of you, were you prepared or were you oh no, I’m sick, what did you do when that happened?  What did you do when it – who did it come back on first, you or your wife?

Nasir:  The doctors said to me that shingles is a virus that will never leave your body and that erupt at any time you’re under some severe stress.  So they said, “That it could come back.”  Well, I have experienced a whole lot more stress since that time and it has never come back.  They said to my wife that shingles, for me and multiple sclerosis for her could come back anytime also.  Well the key was this, the anointing will heal you but it is the word that will keep you healed.  When a Christian get’s healed the author of that sickness doesn’t move out of town, he’s still there and he’s going to bring that sickness back and he tried to bring shingles back on me.

Sid:  How did he try to bring it back what made you think that he was trying to?

Nasir:  Well, when you have shingles it’s like the skin is burning and it is a very tingly feeling and you start to feel that on the side of your neck or your shoulder or your ear; that was the beginning of the symptoms to bring the shingles back on.  The same with my wife with multiple sclerosis through seizures he tried to bring multiple sclerosis back on her.  Now we have to know the difference between a symptom and a sickness.  And until we know that difference what will happen is we will allow the sickness to come back on not realizing that the sickness was already dealt with 2000 years ago and these are now symptoms that are trying to come on.

Sid:  Okay, we realize, let me see if I have this straight now, your making a distinction between sickness and symptoms.

Nasir:  Correct.

Sid:  That makes sense to me, now once you realize this, all right in your case you started – in both your cases you started having symptoms.  What did you do about it?

Nasir:  We went back to the word of God because the anointing will heal you but only belief in God’s Word will keep you healed.  The word says, by His stripes we have, past tense, we’ve would not open our mouth; we would not start speaking the sickness is back on me again.

Sid:  But wait a second now, in your case are you telling me you didn’t even tell your wife?

Nasir:  No no, I told her that there was some tingling on the side, I did not acknowledge that the shingle is back on me.

Sid:  So you were being honest but being honest is saying yes, the tingling is there.

Nasir:  Correct.

Sid:  But disease is not, both are honest statements.

Nasir:  Correct, that is exactly right.  I acknowledge the symptom but I did not acknowledge the return of the sickness.  And then I dealt with the symptom.

Sid:  What did you do?

Nasir:  Well, the Bible says “What so every you bind, whatsoever you loose.”  We’ve been waiting for God to do something, but the authority on earth has been transferred to us.  Jesus stripped the devil, made a show of him openly, then He said, “All authority in Heaven and earth has been given to me and He gave that authority to us, the church to enforce.”  And so I use that authority, I use the Name that is above every name.

Sid:  Give me an example of something that you could have been literally saying when those symptoms were coming at you.

Nasir:  I commanded the tingling feeling that was attacking my body to go in Jesus Name.  I command every cell, every bone, every tissue to line up with the word of God.  It’s going to be healed, because it was healed 2,000 years ago and it had to line up with the word of God.  It’s wonderful what Jesus did on the cross, but we have to enforce what He did on the cross by what we believe and what we say.

Sid:  If you had done what 99.9% of the people that are believer, good believers would do and that is acknowledge the disease what do you believe would have happened?

Nasir:  That would have opened the door for the disease to come right back on and probably even in a worse state than it was before.

Sid:  How many people lose their healings?  And you know I’ve heard of so many cases and they don’t know this.  Kathryn Kulman had so many people healed; I think that she had more…  I had the privilege of going to her meetings and she had, I don’t know of anyone today that is moving with the word of knowledge in the miracles that she had.  But many people would lose their healing and she never taught on this area, because she obviously didn’t know.  She operated under the anointing and words of knowledge.

Nasir:  Yes, absolutely.  Today’s God’s people perish for lack of knowledge, not for lack of anointing, not for lack of power, but for lack of knowledge.

Sid:  Now you told me that God has given you insight into what’s coming to America, tell me that.

Nasir:  I believe with everything in me that healing is the dinner bell.  That healing is what we must see manifest not only in the church but as we as believer share this with others and people see that our Jesus is alive.  The tomb is empty and what He did yesterday he’s doing today and that is he is healing today.  And so as we release that anointing and people get healed and stay healed, I believe that will bring the end time revival.  I believe with everything in me that God wants Heaven more full than Hell.  And to do that we are going to have to have something that the world wants and the world needs and I believe that’s healing.

Sid:  I’m just wondering if the amount of sickness that is around today is not about ready to have Christians move into their finest hour and rather than expecting non believers to be in a building called the church, the church is not the building the church goes out to the four corners of this earth and prays for the sick and they say don’t give me any credit I just prayed in the Name of Jesus.

Nasir:  Wouldn’t it be awesome if every believer went around getting their coworkers, their relatives, their neighbors healed and then bringing them to church on Sunday to celebrate?

Sid:  … Nasir I have to believe that because you’re not speaking from theory; you’re speaking from first hand revelation of how the word of God operates.  I have to believe that many people when they hear this teaching are getting healed.  And even better than getting healed they are learning how to keep their healing.  And even better than learning how to keep their healing, they are going to be part of that end time army you talked about of praying for the sick.  Can you tell me one person that comes to mind that sat under this teaching and what happened to them?

Nasir:  We’ve had many, we’ve had testimonies of cancers shrinking, we’ve had testimonies of people getting out of wheelchairs, we’ve had testimonies of legs growing out, we’ve got testimonies of hearing aids being put down cause their ears were totally restored, eyes totally restored.  We have just an incredible number of testimonies that have been coming in, but not only are these people getting healed through that CD series, their learning how to stay healed and minister healing to those around them.

Sid:  Now, I don’t hear any doubt and unbelief on any of these things that we’re talking about, how come?

Nasir:  Well, because I have seen it happen in my life, I’ve seen it happen in my wife, the devil tried to put sickness on all three of sons.  They are all serving the Lord Jesus Christ today, the devil tried to put it on my brother, put it on my sister…

Sid:  Woops were out of time.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I just love breathing in the rarified air of Heaven. Did you know statistics tell us that one in three Americans have emotional problems? How about you? Do you worry a lot? Are you stressed out? Sometimes your temper gets control over you. Sometimes you’re depressed. Sometimes you’re discouraged. Sometimes people say things and you get your feelings hurt so bad it takes you a couple of days to recover. How would you like to live stress-free 24/7? Wouldn’t that be wonderful? Do you know you’d put doctors out of business because God gave us such a great body that if we’re living stress-free and living in the high road, 24/7, I believe our body could take care of anything. Well I come into my guest’s presence, Larry Hutton, I feel emanating from him just this wonderful peace, because he had a visitation from the Lord in which the Lord taught him, step by step, how to live stress-free, worry-free, anger-free, depression-free, discouragement-free, not have hurt feelings when things come. But Larry, you started life out in a very crippled state. How many different allergies did you have?

LARRY: Gosh, they did a test on me and found out I was allergic to like 120 different things; said that I had a deficiency in my body.

SID: 120? How could you even function?

LARRY: I know. The doctors said the only way you could live normal is if you dig a cave about 200 yards down to the earth and cover yourself up, and then you could live normal. That wouldn’t be normal.

SID: Did you resolve that you just had to live that way?

LARRY: Well yeah, because the church that I was raised in told me healing and miracles had been done away with. Thank God they haven’t been. So I just thought I’d have to put up with it.

SID: So what happened to you?

LARRY: Well I went to a little church that believed in miracles. They prayed for me. I believed that I could be healed and I found out Jesus is a healer today, just like when he was when he walked the earth. And I received him as my healer, and I got healed, and that was many, many years ago.

SID: Out of curiosity, was it a gradual healing? Was it instant?

LARRY: Actually, when I prayed and believed I received him as my healer, I didn’t feel anything. It was about seven days later when all of a sudden, every symptom left my body and I got to throw all the medicine away.

SID: How much medicine were you taking?

LARRY: I was taking three different medicines a day, morning, afternoon and night. Plus, I was having to give myself two injections every week. And then even with all of that, I would have to go to the doctor and get these big booster shots occasionally every other month or so.

SID: But you had to be living such a limited life.

LARRY: Well without the medicine, yes. With the medicine, it was able to let me go play sports and stuff like I did. But even with the medicine, like I said, if I got an attack, I’d have to stay in bed, miss school, miss my ballgames, whatever.

SID: In 1977, he had a visitation that changed his life forever and I believe is going to change your life forever. Tell me about that.

LARRY: Totally; talk about life-changing, Sid, this was just the most awesome things, I think, that ever happened to me. The Lord came in my room and started talking to me and said, “I’m going to show you in my Word…”

SID: Was this the first time He ever came like that or had He previously?

LARRY: You know, I would have to say the first presence that I felt strong and then I heard the voice of the Lord speak to me, I believe it was, yes, sir. But He came in…

SID: Were you doing something spiritual at the time?

LARRY: No, I wasn’t. The funny thing is I wasn’t. I was just about my business, you know, and don’t even remember what I was doing. But no, I wasn’t praying, wasn’t worshiping or anything. All of a sudden, the Lord said, “I’m going to show you in my Word what to do, and if you do what I tell you, you’ll never have another down day the rest of your life.”

SID: Wow. Did you just hear that? You will never have a down day the rest of your life. Well that’s wonderful for Larry. But he teaches what the Lord taught him, and as he teaches, people walk into this realm. Did he say anything else to you?

LARRY: Well He said, “I don’t just mean down, I mean, you know, bad temper, problem with anger, depression, discouragement, worry and stress,” which is huge in our society today. He said, “I’m going to show you how to live free from all of that.” And that’s when He started teaching me about what Jesus did at the cross for us when he bore our sins, that he also bore every negative emotion for us.

SID: Okay. I have to ask you a question, and I’m sure this is a question that you want to know right now. To live in this life, it’s not a perfect life. There are not perfect people and there’s a very imperfect devil roaming around. So Larry had tests. Tell me about one of your first tests.

LARRY: Well you know, the Lord told me that I was going to have tests.

SID: Oh, He warned you ahead of time.

LARRY. Yeah. In fact, the Bible even warns us, too. And He said, “In the world you’re going to face tribulation, but I’ve already overcome the world.” So one of the tests I had to face, I was working for Delta Airlines as a businessman, and all of a sudden, some lies were told about me at work. I had been with Delta quite a few years, and all of a sudden, it looked like I’m going to lose my job. Well you know, when you’re in a job that you absolutely just love doing and you think you’re going to be there the rest of your life and you want to be there because you like it, and all of a sudden you’re going to lose it, you’re going to lose your job, your money, your vocation, everything, I mean. Then stress tried to start coming, and worry and depression, all that stuff that everybody faces started trying to come. And the Lord spoke to me and He said, “Do you remember what I told you in my Word?” And all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit brought to my remembrance, yes, “In the world I’m facing tribulation, but be of good cheer. I’ve overcome the world.” And so He said, “Are you facing tribulation?” I said, “Yes, sir, I am.” He said, “Now this is what I want you to do. I want you to look at the feelings, all the emotion that you’re facing right now, I want you to look at it, group all those feelings, the depression, the fear, the stress, everything. Group it all together and talk to it like you would a person. And this is what I want you to say, ‘Jesus told me you were coming and he’s already defeated you.’” Sid, as soon as He said that to me, I rose up, just like I was talking to you, and I said, “Hey.” I’m talking to those emotions, those feelings. I said, “Hey, Jesus told me you were coming and guess what? You’re already wupped.” I mean, I used one of those back wood terms, and I said, “I’ve already got the peace of God in me. I’m not having you.” And all of a sudden…

SID: Well wait a second. That’s got nothing to do with these people saying these nasty things about you. How could you feel good about that?

LARRY: Because all of a sudden when I acted on what God showed me, His grace enveloped me and I guess I felt like Job in that hedge. I felt like all of a sudden I was in, for lack of a better term, a peace bubble. And for the next few days, it was like I didn’t care what anybody said or what anybody thought. I am going to live in the peace and joy of God, and I did. And you know what happened?

SID: What?

LARRY: The next few days later the whole thing got exposed, turned around and I came out smelling like a rose; better than when the whole thing because I didn’t worry, I didn’t get stressed or depressed, or in fear about it. I let the Lord take care of it.

SID: I wonder if that’s why the Lord tells us to worry for nothing. I mean, He says that, but are you able to? Am I able to? Let’s find out more. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back.

Sid: What is stopping you in a lot of arena’s of life?  Its fear and if you can learn to conquer fear, and that’s the word; have fear under your foot, if you can learn that you will win every battle.  My guest Michael Galiga has been raised up by God.  He’s involved in mega million dollar real estate deals.  In fact Michael you were hugely successful, but in 2005 you went into a closet and said God if you don’t become as real to me as you were as people I read about in the Bible, like King David I’m just not going to leave, and you finally sold out everything you knew to God.  Success is as good as it was before, how was it after that.  It was much, much better.  I enjoyed, you know I was very successful, but I became even more successful in the eyes of the world as far as making money and things.  But I enjoyed what I had a lot more I was much more clear, there were so many obstacles you know, one of them was the follow that owed me all that money, we can talk about that in a minute, it was much much better.

Sid: Okay, so you come to a point where you’re doing so well in real estate, and you decide to go into business for yourself so things are a little tight because you are in business for your elf, but an individual odd you 500,000 plus dollars and one day you get a phone call from him, what did he say?

Michael: He said, Mike I’m not going to pay you.  Now Sid, one thing that you need to understand about this fellow, that he was bad to the bone.  He was a guy that you don’t want to meet in a dark ally, I mean he was about 6’6” I’m going to say somewhere about 300 plus or minus pounds.  And his face was a red as, as I don’t know, as red as it could be like it was going to explode all the time.  He had a huge temper and would intimidate people very easily so I would call him back and say, usually every day or two and say, hey you know we need to get this taken care of and clearly this is payable and you know that’s what the documents say, is there some misunderstanding?  And he’d say, “No, no misunderstanding.  The documents are very clear, I’m an attorney and I helped draft them so there bullet proof.  But he said, “I know what the documents say, but I’m just not going to pay you Mike.  I’d say “Oh, then you must have a cash flow problem,” and he goes, “No, I have plenty of money, I’m just not going to pay you.”  So if you have been in business very long Sid you run into people like this, there are many of them and they just don’t want to do what they are suppose to do.  So I began to call him more regularly, almost like every day and of course he got madder, madder, madder just one day he went nuclear.  I don’t know any word to describe it; it was like he threw the phone threw the window or something and he yelled at me and he said, “Let me tell you Mike how much I’m not going to pay you, I could see him exploding in his office, probably dead people everywhere from the shrapnel but he said, “I’ll tell you how much I’m not going to pay you, I’m going to come to Oklahoma City, we’ll say it’s from Indiana.

Sid: But wait a second Mike, you’re an attorney, why don’t you just sue the man?

Michael: Yeah, litigation is just about the worst thing you can do in most situations.  Even if you win, you still lose plus this would probably taken five years to go through district court, cost maybe a million dollars and maybe he’s there and maybe he’s not there to pay it at the end.  It just wasn’t an option; it’s not an option.  I only had one place to go and that was to the living God and I laid it out before Him and called him one more time and he went nuclear and said, “This is how much I’m not going to pay you.”  I couldn’t believe he did this, he goes, “This is how much I’m not going to pay you, I’m going to fly to Oklahoma City and I’m going to tell you to your face, I’m not going to pay you and then you are going to leave me alone, I never want to hear from you again.  So I got a little room at the airport and reserved it and flew in and I met him and we walked over towards this room and he looked like he was 7’6” that day and more like 600 pounds.  His face looked like it had already detonated and done it’s damage and as were walking together he’s mumbling to himself and I think cuss words as we’re going down the hallway together and we walk into this little room, it’s a 10 x 12 and it has a little table in it and two chair.  And kind of like a room that you would see the FBI when they are interrogating somebody, and that sort of thing.  And so I open the door, he walks in and as I recall he’s so red it’s like he’s already detonated and he sits down at one side of the table and I shut the door behind me and I go sit on the other side of the table in this chair.  And so it’s been maybe seven eight ten seconds and I sit down in my chair and I look at him and Sid, his face is white as 10,000 sheets of Xerox paper, and he’s looking at the wall above my head and he’s sitting on the other side of the table, he’s looking at that wall, and I have no idea what’s happened and I start to open my mouth and I think my goodness, this guy has either had a stroke, a heart attack, or both and he’s going to…

Sid: And forgetting what he’s had, how could you have put yourself in this situation with such a mad man, why did you did you even get together with him?

Michael: Oh, Sid it was a hard drive to the airport, I’m telling you it was like King David, it little David, you know little sixteen, seventeen year old David when he went up against Goliath; I’m driving to the airport saying God, “You know, I am tiny and he is big and I’m a speck and he’s a giant and but you know what God, You fought battles for me before Sid, I really did this.  And I’m going to the airport and fear’s trying to jump on me like a bird on June bug as we say in Oklahoma and I’m shaking it off pretty well this time, but I’m still, it’s trying to get me.  But I make my way to the airport and I get out of my car and I walk in, I just had to put one foot in front of the other to go in there.  And I really felt like God would save me, but it was very stressful nonetheless that’s what faith is, it’s walking in the unknown.  So back to the room he, looking above my head and he’s looking at something, I don’t know what it is, I don’t know what it is to this day, but whatever it was it was causing the blood to drain from his head and he and then his shoulders drooped down and it was that way for seven or eight minutes.  And I started to speak and God’s hand; a long story short went in front of my mouth and just told me to shut up he was taking care of this; I wasn’t to say anything.  So it seemed like really time stood still, it seemed like an hour but it was only seven or eight minutes, finally he started mumbling and he said something like, “Willlll pay you,” and I thought God did I just hear what I think I heard, and then he said it again, “We will pay you.”  And about seven or eight minutes later the blood came back to his head, the color came back, his shoulder’s came up and he just looks at me and said, “You know Mike, I think that I’m going to go back to Indiana.”  And I said, Okay, Bob.”  Those are the only words I said in the whole meeting, “Okay, Bob.”  And he got up, I walked him out the door and he walked down the hall and I never saw him again.  And a couple of days later, I was checking my checking account and there had been a $515,000 wire transfer.

Sid: Now, short of God, you would have never seen that money!

Michael: Never, notta and there is no chance, no.

Sid: Is there one testimony that comes to mind of someone…and what happened to them?

Michael: Well, yeah there’s a fellow here in Oklahoma City, will call him Jim, and he’s a married probably twenty years and five children and I knew his father before he passed away, but we weren’t super close, but anyway Jim and I started spending time together and I started teaching him these concepts.  And long story short he had been really eaten up my fear and when I walked him through the steps this was before the book was even published and I walked him through these steps that are in the book and he was delivered from fear.  He journals now, which is a super important component and now his kids are delivered from fear, because these things are generational Sid; they come from parents, they go to our children.  And until that chain is snapped they go down generationally.  Now his children are relieved and his wife is delivered the whole family; five kids, the wife and the husband are delivered from fear and they’re living an abundant life; joy is beyond what words can say.

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Leif Hetland. And Leif, one thing I love is you even teach children to dream. You, in your own home, how has this teaching impacted your wife and your children?

Leif: Well first of all, I do believe that when I came home after just having this experience, actually it was after the Susan Boyle, I decided that I need to go home and ask my wife, “What is your dreams? What is some of the things that even from when you were a little child that you wanted to do when you’re dreaming with God?” So I decided for my wife and each one of my children, let’s write down 25 things on a list in the next few days your dream with God, something that is coming from Him that you think is. And it can be going on a mission trip. It can be different things. So we started to make that list. And then there’s another list and that is the desire of your heart. What is the desire of your heart? Align yourself with Him and he’s going to give you the desire of your heart. So I released the prayer over my wife and my four children. And my wife, she went and started to draw our next house. And since she was nine years old, she had a picture, but she never financially speaking could dream, so she just tore up the paper. A couple of times she was thinking about it. But it was always the limitation.

Sid: So she had a funeral for her dream.

Leif: She had a funeral for her dream. But after she released, this is the problem, because now the dream house is there, and I’m saying, “Who’s going to pay for this?” Now I’m chickening out. But she started to draw out her dream house. And my daughter Lila, she’s working full time in my office right now. Her dream was when she went to bed at night, I want to be with my daddy. I want to do what my daddy. And that’s what touches my heart. So she, while I’m sitting here now, is in my office. She’s been with me in Africa. She is living her dream by serving her daddy, and that became the dream that God started to realize, to travel with her daddy and do what her daddy is doing.

Sid: You know, when you said that, I could feel something in my heart. I could feel what you feel when your dream becomes a reality. And your dream will become a reality. Tell me about some children when you teach on dreaming, what’s happened to them.

Leif: We were in Eerie, Pennsylvania and doing an event. And I was actually releasing first all of the adults. But the amazing thing that I’ve seen is I go down the line and I ask children, “What would you like to do when you grow up?” All of the children have a dream. But when you go to the grownups, because of disappointments and discouragement, delays, things that happen in life, and they have to think or they’re not sure.

Sid: You know, maybe that’s why Jesus said, “Become like a little child.”

Leif: And that’s why I like to be childlike. I’m just like a little boy that has a big papa.

Sid: I’ve noticed that.

Leif: That’s what happened here. So afterwards, I released over the children. I said, “You’re going to dream with God.” And the amazing thing that happened, all of the children, they rested in the presence of God just when I touched them. And these are some, like one grandma said, “This is a very hyper child.” That’s a miracle in itself. Two hours later, I came back and the children were still down. So I went into a big church and ministered, and we had worship, and then eventually came back again. I wanted to find out what happened to the children. And I got to hear all these stories of children describing in detail. Some had seen Jesus. One of them got to sit on Jesus’ lap. Other ones were drawing what they saw while they were laying on the floor. And the parents were just blown away.

Sid: Those children will never be the same. But I remember a young boy that had a dream to go to the nations and you had your funeral for your dream. But today, you go to nations like Pakistan and you have big billboards, and these billboards, what did they say?

Leif: They’re just saying that Jesus is here. Jesus is here and he’s going to be here in this cricket stadium. If you are lame, if you are blind, if you are deaf, just come, anyone that are sick, and we’re just announcing that Jesus is coming to show up, and that is my dream for people.

Sid: And what is going to happen, what is going to happen if the people are not healed, if miracles don’t happen? This is a stadium filled with non-believers, Muslims.

Leif: Yeah. And when you go into a place where people are from a totally different faith, I know that I would be considered a false prophet if he doesn’t show up. If Jesus doesn’t heal the blind eyes, the deaf ears, tumors falling off people’s body, you announce beforehand this is going to happen, and if they’re coming and they don’t see it, I know what they are going to do, and it’s not going to be very pleasant. So I know that I don’t have a Plan B. It is only Plan A. It is a dream from God.

Sid: But this is your dream and just as he had a funeral for his dream, and God resurrected it. And just as you’re saying, “God, I want to dream with you. I’ve never had a dream,” I want you to pray for people right now to dream with God. Would you do that?

Leif: I would love to. And I just want to focus just on you. Within each one of you, first of all, I want to remind you, you’re very, very valuable and God is very good. And there’s something that He has placed within your life and your heart, and I want to release, some of you that had a funeral, some of you, I’m going to release resurrection of the dream. You’re going to start to sense something that has been the desire of your heart is going to come back. So Father, just release right now, come Holy Spirit. Just come right now and start just to stir up some of those dreams. Awaken some of the dreams. I just ask even that some of the desires of people’s heart is just going to be awakened. Even as they’re going to bed tonight, I ask that you would just download certain things, like we’ve heard stories from the Filipinos. Come Holy Spirit. I just ask that the vision is going to come back. Hope is going to come back. Passion is going to come back. Husband and wives, let them start to dream together. Businesses being resurrected. Songs being written. Wow. Songs being sung. Even the very sound of a Susan Boyle, there is a song in each one of you. I just release. I release that song to come out. Come Holy Spirit. Just feel it right now. You can feel His presence is on you right now.

Sid: I could feel His presence on me right now. I can tell you, Leif. You talk a lot about rest and resting in God. Explain that to me.

Leif: First of all, I want to say the best thing about God is God. When I come to be with Him I do nothing.

Sid: You don’t have an agenda.

Leif: No agenda. I just want to be there with him. And what happens when I go there with no agenda, this time I study and pray. But there’s a time for me just to go and to be with him. And I find me a comfortable place where I rest, because I believe when you are resting you are receiving, and that’s the hard thing. There are so many noises. There are so many things that is competing with us. That for me just to go in a place…

Sid: Don’t you have to do something? Work?

Leif: It’s called nothing. And there’s something in that nothingness. It’s called the hard work of rest because resting is receiving.

Sid: So you’re telling me, if I’m understanding right, what you do is, now what are you doing? Are you concentrating on God? What are you doing when you’re resting in God? Are you focusing on Him or are you just resting?

Leif: Sometimes I’m focusing on certain of His attributes.

Sid: You know, when I just went back like that, God spoke to me. Does He speak to you when you’re resting?

Leif: He speaks to me and that’s when downloads is taking place.

Sid: Well you know what He just told me? That someone’s neck, there’s a pain in your neck. I just heard that. If you’ll move your head until the pain is gone. And you know what happens? It seems like every time, Leif, I get that word, the anointing of God goes down the person’s spine and their back gets healed. Stand up and bend over. Come on. Come on. Sid says do it. Do it. Okay. Because Sid heard from God. What about where it says in the Bible, “I only do what I see my Heavenly Father doing.” How does that work out for you?

Leif: It’s working very well out because I am with Him, He places certain things in me and then the next moment, there’s things that’s being downloading, even financially speaking. Or like I’m just writing a book. But when some of those things is coming down into my spirit, I maybe say, I don’t have this, I don’t have this gift. I can hardly speak English. At least I do with a very strong accent. But He places something in me and in the next moment, now that very dream that I had is a reality. I’m looking at a script. And my English teacher said to me, he said, “You’re never going to learn how to speak English.” And I’m sitting here talking to you in English.

Sid: Now I’m reminded many years ago, someone sang about the love of God to you. What difference did it make at that point in your life?

Leif: It made all the difference because when I came up from that very place I knew that God is in a good mood. And the second thing I knew is I’m His son and I don’t have to live towards inheritance. I can live from inheritance. So all that Papa has is mine, as His son. So he has a whole, I mean, he has a whole Heaven full of resources that is just waiting for sons and daughters to dream with Him, and that’s what is taking place. And I think that even as we are watching this program, you’re going to hear from all over the country and all over the world people, beloved sons and daughters, that start to dream with Papa. And every problem out there is just one dream away.

Sid: And the first step to being a son or daughter is to tell God you’re sorry for everything you’ve done that’s wrong, believe that his blood just washes you clean. You’re given that A+, as Leif likes to say and you say, “Jesus, I make you my Lord. Come and live inside of me and be my Lord.” If you say it’s too simple, you’re right. It is. He’s done all the work. Now just choose Him.

Sid: My guest, Bruce Allen is red hot for the Messiah some of these experiences that he has had in the Supernatural are really, I mean they are, Bruce they’re really provoking me to jealousy.  And I was looking this picture of a supernatural scroll in Malaysia, tell me about that.

Bruce: Yeah, that was actually Sid, the second time I had seen that.  There was a point about a year earlier where I had been ministering in Singapore and I was caught up into the Third Heaven and there I met my Aunt who had died about eight years previously and she came up, and she was extremely excited, she said, “Bruce it’s so wonderful, there’s so much excitement and activity going on in Heaven.”  And I said, “Why?”  She said, because the Wedding Feast, the Wedding Supper of the Lamb is being prepared, it’s finished and the Lord is preparing a people to come in and she said, “At this point so many people are visiting Heaven to go back and tell the world get ready, the Marriage Supper of the Lamb is prepared.

Sid: You know, I’m noticing that.  I am getting so many reports of people that have gone to Heaven and have come back with the Word, “Jesus is coming soon, repent of your sins and live a holy life.”  That’s the word that I’m getting from people that are going to Heaven.  And some people say, “Well, how do we know whether that’s true or not?  I’ll tell you the truth, it doesn’t matter, with a message like that that’s Biblical, you know.

Bruce: Yes, yes, yes and I found the same thing, too everywhere we travel.  Everywhere, matter of fact, in the last three years we’ve had more people enquiring about, “Tell us about the Rapture, tell us about the end times and the eschatology.”  There’s been a resurge, and it’s a supernatural thing that God’s making people aware whether they understand or not that we’re in a season of transition, look up, look up.

Sid: So in 2007 you’re ministering in Malaysia and what happens?

Bruce: Oh, alright let me finish with that, so when I turned from talking with my her there stood this very large angel who had a scroll in his hand, and behind him as far as the eye could see were what, if you’ve ever been out of port you see these containers filled of goods that have been imported or about to exported.  And so I knew, and I’ve known for years that visions are language so I asked him, “Who are you and what is your function?”  He said, “I am the angel of provision that the Lord has assigned to the saints at the end of the age.”  And He said, “And you have the manifest.” And immediately I knew in my Spirit that as we speak by faith, what we speak is instantly delivered by the Spirit of God.  And so fast forward a year later I’m ministering in Kuala, Lumpur in a church that the pastor and the church have become dear, but as I’m ministering all sorts of supernatural phenomenon are taking place.  And all of a sudden there this angel in the room…

Sid: Well, just out of curiosity, just before the angel, tell me a couple of things that were happening.

Bruce: Spontaneous healing, you know to me I just get more excited when God begins to move sovereignly without us having to implement a program.  That’s allowing God to be God and we’re just there to participate in what He’s doing and so we see a lot of spontaneous healings and deliverances.   And I love that.

Sid: Well, I just heard that someone’s back and neck was just healed.  The spine, someone’s getting a new spine just as you were saying that it just released such an anointing.  So you see an angel, “What happens?”

Bruce: So here’s the angel and immediately the Spirit of Prophecy came on me.  This church was in the process of building a new building for their congregation, and being the angel that was there to minister administer and administer the resources of Heaven the Spirit of Prophecy began to come and I told them exactly what I was seeing and what the Lord was saying, that supernaturally this building would be built in ways they hadn’t expected.  And they were snapping digital images. They had, I had a conference there a year earlier where I had challenged them about the supernatural and we had a very unusual event then.  But I’ll explain that later.  And so as they were taking these pictures, where they caught a supernatural phenomena on a digital camera, which I believe is because digital cameras can catch a frequency of light that we can’t see with our naked eye.  And so they caught these scrolls, this manifest on camera.  That was a miracle in and of itself, but the greater miracle to me…

Sid: But wait a second now, I am looking at it right now, and you’re saying to me this could not be scene with a naked eye except if God showed it to someone, which He showed it to you.  Was this the Torah scroll that the angel was holding, this picture I’m holding in my hand?

Bruce: That’s exactly where he was standing and exactly what he was holding, yes.

Sid: Well, if you want to see this picture, go to our web page at sidroth.org.  I mean this is beautiful.  This is so phenomenal, so he’s holding this torah scroll, and then what?

Bruce: Okay, it looked like a torah scroll, I want to define that, I don’t know if it was torah the torah scroll, but it looked like it and it was a manifest.  And so they entered into their building program, it was in Malaysia they have their currencies ringgit at cost 16,000,000 ringgit for their new facility.  And then sovereignly and supernatural they’d go to their bank account and money would be there.  Bills would come due that very day and finances would show up.  I believe if I remember the story correctly, at one point God began to multiply the building material.  And they kept the process going, so sovereignly and supernaturally the Lord provided until they had an overflow and over abundance of what they needed and they were able to bless other areas.

Sid: You know as you’re telling me this experience that you had, that in affect is what you see about ready to happen for those that know how to enter in right now.   I have your brand new book, just literally off the press, “Called the Prophetic Promise of the Seventh Day.”  And what you’re saying is the day is as thousand years, so we’re entering into the beginning of the seventh day, and the seventh day of the Sabbath is the day of rest.  And I believe that as people read these promises from the scriptures and understand the revelation that you had, the anointing of God is so strong on this book, and as I believe it must be as you speak, that and I’m experiencing it right now as a matter of fact.   That I believe that as people read what God promises for the seventh day, they’re going to enter into it.  Is that what you’re motion was in writing this book?

Bruce: Oh absolutely, absolutely, that my heart is to provoke God’s people out of apathy or lethargy or a religious stupor into realizing the profound destiny and the call of God for their lives on this day.

Sid: Was there anything else you wanted to add about Malaysia?

Bruce: I can tell you another testimony when Jesus physically came into the room and all eight hundred people saw Him.

Sid: Please!  Ha-ha, eight hundred people saw, what did He look like?

Bruce: Well, this is what’s funny, the Lord provoked me, we were doing a conference with the same pastor, Pastor Colin Gordon and going up in the elevator I told him the Lord had challenged me to ask of Him a sign.  And I said that I’m believing the Jesus and resurrected bodily form, every eye will see Him will step into the room.  And everybody will know Him and they immediately got excited and said yes, let’s believe for that.  Well, the Lord has been teaching me for many years and I teach this everywhere I go, we’ve got to get rid of the boxes that we try to create for God; we try and create God in our own image.  And what I mean by that is that we have a preconceived idea of who He is, how He’s suppose to do it and what time and what manner He’s suppose to do it and so we limit God.  And so when I told them what I was believing for we agreed.  Well, what happened is this whole meeting started out rather supernaturally with signs in the Heavens.  I was sitting at the PJ Hilton in Malaysia and lightning was right outside my window, just lightning, lightning, lightning, lightning supernatural.  I knew that it was supernatural I pulled my chair up to the window to watch because it kept striking within about a mile radius.  And a medical doctor who was also an elder in the church said, “He watched that as he was coming down the freeway and when it came time for the meeting that whole lightning moved over the church.”  So we got to the church and it was down pour and this, they had their church in an office complex because it’s not legal to build a Christian Church, you have to start a business and sublet it out to a Christian community.  And so it had a guard gate at the front and a compound and this man was walking down the street, soaking wet, looked like he’d been just mugged and one of the elders said, he came up to He said, “May I come in?”  And the elder said, “Oh please, come on in,” and they took him up to the office, he was soaking wet.  Now the meeting, the worship is going on and the meeting is going on.  And he said, “Brother what I’ll do I’ll go get you a dry shirt, I don’t have any pants but I’ll get you a dry shirt, let’s take you into the men’s room, you got into the first stall and dry off.”  Well, this man says, “No the first stall is dirty I’ll go into the third one.”  And it was what?  It was just as he had said, so they ran into the office and they found a red T-shirt and a bottle of water.  They brought that back in and the man saw the red T-shirt, he grabbed it and he said, I love red.  So he took off his wet shirt and it looked like he had just been flayed within an inch of his life.  They were astounded and not only that there was a hole in his side and holes in his hands.

Sid: Are you telling me, you were seeing Jesus?

Bruce: That’s exactly what…

Sid: Whoop, were out of time.