It’s Supernatural

Sid:  We were talking about Obadiah 1:15 “As you have,” just before the day of the Lord it says, “As you have done to Israel it will be done to you.”  And the most amazing thing to me, Michael is the anointing of Genesis 12:3 that is still on the Jewish people, because it’s a covenant and God says, “I God will bless those who bless the Jewish people and I God will curse those who curse the Jewish people.”  And my friend John McTernan said to me that he did an investigative study of the number of economic tragedies that have occurred to the United States and found most of them were within twenty-four hours of doing something to Israel.  But that’s what God says in Obadiah 1:15, “As you have done to Israel, I will do to you.”  And he found, he went on the FEMA web site and he found of the ten top since FEMA’s been keeping records economic disasters, hurricanes, things like that have hit the United States nine of the ten were directly tied within 24 – 48 hours of the United States Administration going against Israel.  Has that been made clear to you Michael?

Michael:  It has and you know in the last radio show we talked a little bit about this New Madrid fault and what might happen if we tried to divide the land in Israel, specifically Jerusalem; but I can take it one step further very simple.  The anointing on the Jewish people is so strong; God has not forgotten them that fear tries to come on me.  You know, I am not exempt and I teach on to get rid of fear and make it stay away and how to deal with it, but if you simply pray for the peace of Jerusalem those words physically, you don’t think them, you say them.  You say Father I’m praying for your people; they’re your first people, your first love.  I come second as a believer, I’ve been grafted in.  I’m praying for them, I’m praying for their safety, I’m praying for their well being; I know you love them and I’m pray for them Father, lift them up protect them, put a shield of light around them; fear cannot be there, it will leave.  It’s a thing and it can’t be in the presence of that can of praise praying for His children.

Sid:  So when you pray Psalm 122:6 which says “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem,” actually it’s not an option, it’s a command.  “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem they shall prosper that love thee.”  And my friend, Dr. Derrick Prince told me once that the word prosper is not just money, although it is money, it’s something that money can’t purchase.  In the Hebrew, its heart peace; so God says, “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, thou shall have heart peace that love thee” And I challenge fear to coexist with the peace of God in your heart, Michael.

Michael:  Yeah, it can’t.

Sid:  What have you actually seen happen as you’ve prayed Psalm 122:6?

Michael:  Well, I’ll give you an exact example, in fact it was last week, I was out in Scottsdale, Arizona, any one that’s in the banking business or real estate knows that finance is very difficult; most of our banks are in liquid.  And so I went out in the parking lot out the seminar just walked out into the parking lot and just started praying for the peace of Jerusalem and said, God you know my needs.  I need financing on these two large projects and it simply doesn’t exist, it doesn’t exist today, you’ve got to make it and I’m praying for the peace of Jerusalem, I’m praying, I’m putting your people, your children first and so I know that if I pray for them and I bless them, you will bless me; so I leave it at Your feet.  And so about two hours later I get a call from a fellow in Los Angles and in fact I’m at my desk right now in my office; I just signed two loan commitments to fund those two projects, $280,000,000.

Sid:  And you believe that God is prospering you to be a blessing to the nation Israel.  And I believe God is prospering our ministry to the greatest blessing in the world to the nations Israel and that’s plant the gospel into these Jewish people.  And I believe everyone that is a blessing to Israel, God is going to bless, Genesis 12:3 is still true.  But you know the devil sees the stakes are so high in reference to the Jew coming to the Lord to form the One New Man, Jew and Gentile; one in Messiah; one in Yeshua; those two anointing merging together; which according to Amos it says “When the Tabernacle of David is restored,” and the Tabernacle in the Hebrew is the House or the family of David,” When the family of David, the Jewish people are restored it describes in Amos the last chapter the greatest outpouring of God’s Spirit in history.  The devil understands this and as matter of fact I have to tie in one more scripture, I mentioned it earlier in the week, John 17:22 and 21; Yeshua prayed “I pray that they, Jew and Gentile,” that’s the only two people that existed at that time, it wasn’t Baptist and Catholic’s, no no they didn’t exist.  “I pray that they Jew and Gentile might be one so the world will believe.”  That’s what’s at stake, the world will believe, then John 17:22 says “That when these two become one the same glory that is on Jesus will be on them.”  Do you see an increase in miracles when the One New Man comes into being Michael?

Michael:  Well, I do I can speak for myself and others that I’ve explained this to and they have adopted it and Sid, surprisingly the answer is yes.  But it’s not very difficult to get people to understand this, I’m simply amazed lately it’s becoming more like the way I heard it the first time I heard it, it was a minute maybe at the most before I just believed it. 

Sid:  Well, the same thing that’s going on with Jewish people, the spiritual scales are coming off the eyes of Jewish people, that’s why we’re going to mail my book of Jewish testimonies which is called “They Thought for Themselves” to a million Jewish households in the United States because the spiritual scales are coming off.  What you’re saying to me is that the spiritual scales are coming off of Christians also.

Michael:  Yeah, and in the seminars that I do “Win Every Battle” that’s a very major component is the One New Man and there is virtually no push back at all; people are amazed.

Sid:  Now, also the devil is not taking this without kicking and screaming and so he’s spreading a false teaching called “replacement theology” what does that mean?

Michael:  Well, replacement theology is basically in a nutshell in kind of civilian terms Sid, it is like hey, the Jews they screwed up, they killed Jesus and so now the church, the Christian church is the new Jerusalem, the new Israel, God’s chosen people and the Jews are just kind of pushed to the side.  That’s what replacement theology is, clearly it’s wrong, it’s nowhere found in the Bible and it’s very self serving for those that push that.

Sid:  I don’t see where anyone could read Roman’s 9:10 and 11, the gifts, where it talks about His promises to the Jewish people, and He says “The gifts and calling of God are without repentance.  In other words God will not change His mind with the gifts and callings of God.  And as you explained earlier this week they’re covenants!  So good is not going to change His mind and here’s the good news, if God will not change His mind of His covenants to the Jewish people even while many of us are in disobedience, He won’t change His mind with the covenants to the Christians even though many of us are in disobedience.

Michael:  That’s a great thing to bring it home Sid, because if we couldn’t trust Him to keep His covenant with His own children, and we’re grafted into those people, how would we ever expect Him to keep His promises to us?  The fact is He kept them there and He keeps them now.

Sid:  Well, you know someone that I met many years ago, by the name of Francis Schaefer, he actually sat next to me on an airplane one day, and he’s one of the great theologians of our day; he’s now in Heaven.  And his wife’s name was Edith Schaefer and she wrote a book which summarizes what I want to talk about on tomorrow’s broadcast.  The title of the book was “Christianity is Jewish” you know, Michael, I’m questioning if God wanted to start a new religion called Christianity or if it is not the fulfillment of Judaism?  Which and the word Jew comes from the Hebrew word Yehudah which means worshiper of God.  I think He wanted to make us all one, not two different religions, have you ever thought about that?

Michael:  I have and you know and you alluded to this earlier that Satan worse nightmare is when these two groups come together as one, it’s over for him; and he knows it and he’s kicking and screaming but that’s the worst possible thing that could happen to him and it is happening.

Sid:  Well, before we get to that subject which we’ll talk about on tomorrow’s broadcast, I want to turn to the last prophet of old covenant, and that was the only Bible the first church had, and his name is Malachi and I want to turn to the last word that Malachi said and this is what he said, “Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord and he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to their father’s less I come and strike the earth with a curse.  Now Paul call Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in Roman’s 9 “The father’s of the faith,” so if the father’s of faith are the Jewish fathers, who are the children, the Christians.  So what is God saying in this last word to the church before Jesus comes?  He’s saying that if the Jewish people don’t turn to the Christians, and the Christians don’t turn to the Jewish people, there will be a curse on earth.  But if these two people groups become one there will be a release of the greatest blessing the world has ever seen.  But a lot of people don’t know this Michael, but in the actual Jewish scriptures the last book is not Malachi, the last book is Chronicles.  And this is amazing, I want to see what the last word in the book of Chronicles, which is divided in two books in the Christian Bible, 2^nd Chronicles is, it says in 2^nd Chronicles 26:33 “Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, all the kingdoms of the earth, the Lord God of Heaven has given me and He has commanded me to build him a house, a family at Jerusalem, which is in Judea in praise who is among you of all of His people may the Lord his God be with him and let him go up.  So God wants us to build Him a tabernacle, a house where the middle wall of separation has come down between Jew and Gentile.  Isn’t that amazing in the Jewish Bible, the Jew is called to reach the Gentile and in the Christian Bible the Gentile is called to reach the Jew and when you reach these two people groups you reach the whole world.  It makes so much sense you need help to get confused…

Sid:  My guest is Michael Galiga is red hot for the Messiah.  He is a successful businessman that God has downloaded the One New Man message.  And you know Michael, I believe that one of the reasons that the moment that you heard about the One New Man you got so excited about it is you understood that as an attorney the difference between a covenant and a contract.  And the covenant that God has with the Jewish people in reference to the nation of Israel.  Tell me your understanding of covenant verses contract and why that’s so important to know the different. 

Michael:  I am an attorney and one of the things that you learn in contracts your first year of year of law school is that contracts are agreements between men and woman to remind us of what we promised.  Because men and woman, they don’t actually say this part in law school, but they basically say that because men and women lie, cheat and steal; that’s our fallen nature.  So we have contracts, agreements between people and we have certain rules and regulations that govern all of that from the UCC and from commercial code and other statues and common law; it can be kind of complex but those are called contracts.  There’s a huge distinction that most people don’t understand and that a covenant is a promise that the living God made on His own Holy Name.  That means, unlike most contracts and I review contracts and inch thick almost every day; and you red line them and mark stuff out; and you change things, you add exhibits, you get rid of exhibits, it can be 50% change by the time it goes back the first time.  A covenant is not like that, and once you grasp it it’s cool, but until then you can king of struggle with it.  A covenant can’t be changed, it can’t be changed by time; it can’t be changed by space; it can’t be changed by man or woman; it can’t be changed by circumstances; it can’t be changed by governments; it can’t be changed by anything.  There’s no edits; there’s no relining; there’s no exhibits; there’s no modifications; there’s nothing absolutely.  And nothing, and I looked this up in Greek Sid, nothing means nothing; no changes none and it takes something like a two by four to move most people especially men, it seems like in America.  I virtually have to get a two by four out and beat them on the head and they finally go oh, no change means no change like ever!  And I go yeah, now you’ve got it and they go back and look at the covenant that God made with these people.  The heirs of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, this interesting group of people called the Jew and He gave them this everlasting land, means forever.  And that that means it’s their and…

Sid:  And let me read the scripture on that now that you have this concept of a covenant and if you want a covenant it’s got to be by someone stronger than you and you can’t get a stronger covenant than one guaranteed by God.  And this is Psalm 105:8-11 speaking of God “He remembers His covenant forever, the Word which He commanded for a thousand generations.  The covenant which He made with Abraham and His oath with Isaac and confirmed it to Jacob for a statue as an everlasting covenant saying to you I will give the land of Canaan as the allotment of your inheritance.”  How long?   The covenant is forever, a thousand generations and everlasting.  Well would you say Michael, that if God Himself says that it’s a covenant and then defines it with three different ways, a thousand generations, forever and ever, and everlasting; that’s pretty strong grounds?

Michael:  Yeah, that’s permanent Sid that means forever!

Sid:  And so what you have found is that there is such blessings on the Jewish people even in our unbelief.  Tell me about some of the blessings from your research, like even the nation Israel; the various inventions, they’ve had.

Michael:  Well, you know a lot of people especially in America they look at the Jews and they go, well they can’t be blessed.  I mean look they went through the holocaust and they went through all this stuff and they’re in wars all the time, people getting killed.   Well, if you look at the facts, they’re the most blessed people, just statistic’s raw numbers they’re the most blessed people in the history of the world.  They have more Nobel Peace prizes, more Nobel winners as a percentage of their population of anybody in history by a large margin and they developed, for those that are in the high tech sector, you know what the Pentium chip was; the Max chip that all came from Israel.  The technology for AOL instant messaging sometime ago, that all came from Israel; all the PC antivirus software that was all developed in Israel. Cell phones believe it or not the cell phone was developed in Israel and this list is just goes on and on and on.  The Bible says that God creates everything and he’s given these people a unique ability to create.  No other civilization, no other people group in the history of the world has created and continues to like Jews. 

Sid:  And you know another thing that interests me is that not only are those blessings there; but God promises that when the two become one and become a new creation it’s like they merger of the spiritual DNAs between the two and you form the full Body of Jesus.  This is why Paul says in Roman’s 11: “Now if their fall is riches for the world.”  And it was riches for the world, because Gentiles were grafted in and could become partakers of the rich promises that God has to Israel about the whole world being blessed, all the nations being blessed in the seed of Abraham.  “Now if their fall is riches for the world and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness, for if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will they’re acceptance be, but life from the dead.”  And personally I see Israel doing nothing, but getting better in their economy and every aspect of the nation Israel; which will provoke the world to jealousy.

Michael:  Yeah, Israel is thriving right now, despite and you know the American press it doesn’t appear that way, but the press doesn’t always cover everything thoroughly.  But Israel’s thriving right now; they are doing better than they have ever done, since they became a nation in a day in 1948.

Sid:   And what a lot of people don’t know is that in the end times there is sort of the catalyst for judgment and everyone knows about Joel chapter 2, “God will pour out His Spirit in the last days,” but they don’t know about Joel Chapter 3 which says “the nations will be judged in the last days for one sin and that is dividing up the land of Israel.”  Isn’t that amazing, and then talking about the day of the Lord just before the Messiah returns, Obadiah 1:15 says very clearly; “As you have done to Israel it will be done to you.”  

Michael:  Sid, can I say one thing about dividing up the land?

Sid:  Yes, please.

Michael:  I’ll make this quick, but I’m very, very, very concerned about what our country might do in putting pressure on Israel sometime in the summer or fall when you know our Administration gets pass health care and the economy and things and begins its focus with all its power on dividing Jerusalem.  And I dovetailed that in with historically whatever we’ve done to Israel as a country God has done to us, a blessing or curse; but He loves us because we’ve helped them so many times.  Especially since 1973 with President Nixon and that airlift, but my concern now is that sometime in the fall right before the elections that we do put the pressure on Israel to divide Jerusalem.  And there is a fault running right through the middle states called the New Madrid Fault.   The USGS the United States Geological Survey just came out with a report; took about ten years to write it and they say that fault is really overdue; it could happen anytime and it would make the Mississippi River Run backwards.  It would be a massive, massive earthquake and basically divide our country into east and west and it would remain that way for decades.  Pipelines which I’m in the middle of gas business as well, natural gas supplies would be interrupted for many years; people in the north would have to move to the south; it would be like hurricane Katrina on steroids.  And so what I’m seeing is that you know hopefully this doesn’t happen, but if we try to divide Jerusalem like I think we might in the fall a few weeks before the election, we may see that knew Madrid fault cut our country in half.  And several prophets have been prophesying buy every piece of land you can, in Oklahoma and the southern part of the United States, but buy land soon. 

Sid:  Now, why is that?  Why should they buy it?

Michael:  If that quake does cut out country in half you would see, according to USGS, I mean you would see probably 100,000 people dead and the report says that if Memphis and St. Louis disappear in a few minutes.

Sid:  So what you’re saying is that people will have to move somewhere and they’re going to move somewhere and they will have to move to that land. 

Michael:  Yes, they have to move somewhere warm and they can’t stay in the north because there won’t be natural gas and heating supplies and so they have to overnight.  Image if this happened in October right before the elections to of course gain the kind of support. Image Middle East peace has evaded everybody; and so it’s a big coo for anybody Republican or Democrat I’m not picking on either one; but whoever pulls this off if they can is going to be hero forever and it’s going too much to the benefit of they’re party.  So you try to do that and if this happens and that fault goes then you got probably 30 or 40,000,000 people having to move from the north to the south in a matter of weeks and what a thing that would be.  Real estate in Oklahoma and Texas would go up tenfold in a month and so I’m buying everything I can get my hands on just like Cindy Jacobs is one of the prophets that said that to me personally. 

Sid:  Well, you know I have friends that are prophets that I’m sure you don’t even know that I respect greatly and what they saw is once the health care is settled every focus of the current administration will be to divide up the land of Israel.  And only prayer could stop this, but if we don’t pray our nation could be divided.

Michael:  Yeah, and Sid I see the timing, just from a humanistic standpoint I’m a planner, if I was going to plan this, I would say buy land soon, make it come on strong in July, August, September key it up to an ounce October 15^th or so a couple of weeks before the election so that you can get as much benefit as possible because it will be twenty-four seven on the networks, newspapers and everything for two or three weeks at least.  You couldn’t do it in the spring it’s too far away from the elections, you couldn’t do it in the summer everybody’s on vacation and it’s too far away from elections.  September not enough, October’s perfect if you’re going to do.

Sid:  My guest is Michael Galiga and Michael has been a guest previously on the Messianic Vision and he comes from the corporate world, but once he had a revelation of the One New Man, which is the merger of these two spiritual DNAs to form the complete dwelling place for God it had profound effects on his life.  Michael, tell me about those changes.

Michael:  Well, first of all you know, it’s the supernatural invading the natural and anytime that happens, especially in a significant way as this, it impacts everything you do; it impacts my decision my decisions as a business person; it steps my faith up in a way that you know unpreceded except in a handful of other instances.  But when the supernatural comes in it’s a pretty amazing thing.  I will say this Sid, you know I’m an American Indian; I’m a member or the Delaware tribe.  Well, why am I saying that?  Well, the Delaware tribe is according to all the research that I I’d done and professors that have studied Indian, the Indian tribes in this country; they’re the only tribe that worshipped the one true God. 

Sid:  I wasn’t aware of that. 

Michael: Yeah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  So I’ve done more research and what I found out Sid, was I said, how is it that my tribe, the Delaware, the tiny Delaware tribe, now has been folded into the Cherokee tribe, so I’m now Cherokee as well, how did they know the one true God and worship Him all those centuries?  Well, what I found out I can’t prove the exact connection, but there are in Solomon’s time Sid, with Solomon’s treaty with the Phoenicians and of course they were world travelers, it’s well known that they did three year expositions all over the world, including the United States.  Well, their high Jewish priests that are buried in the lands that the Delaware tribes habituated in.

Sid:  Now, how do you know this? 

Michael:  I’ve read this in several books.  It is kind of what I do Sid, I kind of draw lines in things and make estimates, I can’t prove what happened, but how else does a Delaware tribe thousands of years ago come up and worship the one true God?  And my guess is that somewhere along the line my tribe ran into the Jewish priests and they began to worship the one true God and so that’s what happened.  And so I’ve carried that DNA in me, so when I read about the One New Man concept; it just struck me because I may have Jewish blood in me too, I don’t know, I’ve never been tested, but it goes all the way back I believe to that connection many, many, many years ago; when my forerunners in my tribe met with some of Solomon’s explorers; sounds crazy doesn’t it?

Sid:  Well, it sounds very plausible to me.

Michael:  The other thing that impacted me when I read about that One New Man, was that was ever happens in Israel, especially Jerusalem that has an immediate unbelievable impact on the balance of the world.  If you want to know where the world’s going and what it’s doing, look at Israel and then look at Jerusalem.

Sid:  And that by the way, and I go into detail in my book “The Incomplete Church” and I think it’s amazing in Corinthians it says “First the natural and then the spiritual.”  Every time God does something with Israel, it has an immediate reaction in the church.  For instance in 1900 about the late 1890s the first Zionist Congress was called and about that time the Pentecostal Azusa Street whole revival started.  And then in ‘48 we had the great healing revival that so many men and woman put up tents, they had immediately had supernatural power to pray for the sick but what happened in the natural, Israel became a modern day Jewish nation; and then that explosion in the supernatural in the spirit realm.  And in ’67 we talked about it, Jerusalem in Jewish possession and the whole Charismatic movement started and so we can go on and on and on there is definitely a correlation between the two.  And recently I was thinking, well, what’s going to happen next to natural Israel that will then be the next repercussion that will happen to the church?  And without even thinking it came out of me that that Israel is going to find oil.  Can you picture Ezekiel talks about an invasion of Israel in the last days to get a spoil and can you see quite a spoil with Israel finds unlimited reserves of oil?

Michael:  Yeah, I can Sid there is several of course exploring for it now and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they found it.  You know that there has to be a resource there of great value.

Sid:  And when Israel finds that oil, I believe, well my friend I just got back from a tour of Israel and ministry in Israel and when I was there and I talked to some experts and they say that Israel is definitely preparing for war right now.  So if there’s a war, if there’s a discovery of oil, what’s going to happen to the church?  Oil represents the Holy Spirit; I see such an explosion of the Holy Spirit literally Heaven is going to draw closer to earth and things that the Christians have been praying for fifty years are going to become instant, five minutes!  I see this is about ready to happen because God wants to have mercy on planet earth.

Michael:  Yeah, I agree Sid, it’s all in play right now and if you just have a cursory, you know opinion a review of what’s happening worldwide, focus just a little bit more on Israel and you can see it.

Sid:  And another thing I found about is where the economy is really having challenges in the United States, Israel’s economy is just blossoming, Israel is doing so wonderful right now.  And I’m reminded of a scripture that many Christians can quote, John 17:21 “And Jesus said, I pray that they” (and its talking about the only two people groups that were there in the nature were Jews and Gentiles so there’s no guess work there) Jesus said, “I pray that they, Jew and Gentile might be one so that the world would believe.”  So what’s at stake of Jew and Gentile becoming one?  For the world to believe and somehow, when these two rivers and I kind a couple it with Ezekiel 47 where it talks about the river coming out of the temple and filling up to the point where it’s covering the ankles and then the knees and then the hips and then to the point where you have to swim.  Well in the Hebrew it doesn’t say where the river comes, it says “Where the rivers the two rivers come,” and those two rivers it’s talking about is Jew and Gentile, One New Man teamed up together.  God has shown you a number of things about the One New Man; and one of the things that I found intriguing is God is burdening you to be a blessing to Israel, why is that?

Michael:  Oh Sid, it’s a long story but a short version is, it’s really a core of my being and He’s laid upon me and again I’m a business person, and He’s laid upon me, and there’s no question about it, since I was five years old; but especially since I turned fifty-three a little over a year ago, to bring two million Jews home.  And those words came out of my mouth in and it’d take an hour to tell the story, and that’s an enormous undertaking it would take billions of dollars and so my prayer Sid, is to get two million home in Aliyah is billions.  And I’ve been praying earnestly God, I don’t’ want to just bring these people home to Israel, I want to build them homes, I want to put in sewer lines and that’s probably why I’ve been in corporate real estate for twenty-five years at the highest levels around the world in construction and finance is to do just that. I’m confident of it, but to build sewer, water, streets, roads, create jobs, build hospitals, schools its billions and billions and billions of dollars and it’d be one of the most demanding, the most demanding, the most exciting projects in the history of the world.  And it’s going to start soon.  And how are you going to do that Mike, it’s so overwhelming Sid.  I can just get on my face and say only You can do this, You’ve given me the talent, you’ve given me the calling, You have to bring the people together with the financial wherewithal to make this happen.  But that’s where I am and that’s one of the things that the One New Man means to me. 

Sid:  Well, you know what’s kind of interesting? God is the artist and He’s having all different people work in different areas that’s really a symphony, but the people don’t even know that it’s a symphony because they only have that small picture of what they’re doing as opposed to God having the big picture of what He’s doing.  Scripture shows clearly that many Jews when they seek God in the nations that they’ve been scattered to will come to know Messiah.  Other scriptures say that many Jews will not come to know the Messiah until they return to the land of Israel and that’s why what I’m doing just flows hand and hand with what you’re doing; because what you’re doing what God has put on my heart is to mail my book.  This is a book God told me to write of ten Jewish testimonies to one million Jewish households in the United States.  So many of these Jewish people that get the book, and have them prayed for by name, by the way and so many of the Jewish people get that, they get this book will come to the Lord.  But many of them will just have some seed planted for when they get to Israel, that you’ll help them get there and move into the houses that you’ve built.  So can you see the wisdom and the majesty of God in this whole plan that He showed you and He showed me?

Michael:  It is an orchestra and that’s what makes it so exciting to see that orchestra and I’m over here playing a trumpet and you’re over here playing a clarinet or something and to see how they dovetail together and…

Sid:   Oop we’re just about out of time.

Sid: …One new man that Paul talks about in Ephesians Chapter two 2.  That’s the one new man that Jesus talks about in John 17 in which He says, “I pray that they might be one (Jew and Gentile) and the same glory that was on Me will be on them.”  That’s what we will be about ready to walk into! That’s why I’m so excited this week, my guest Hank is a veteran prophet that I’ve known for a long time by the name of Hank Kunneman. … “Revealer of Secrets” this is literally a prophetic handbook for you on how to hear God’s secrets, God wants you to know His secrets.  And Hank on yesterday’s broadcast we found out that age eighteen, and your parents weren’t believers you were raised in a non-Christian home, you only went to denominal church once in a while.  But at age five you heard God’s voice and you had a healthy respect and reverence for God, a godly fear of God.  And at eighteen in the basement of your parent’s home after some Christians had witnessed to you you became a believer, you prayed in unknown tongues all night; you had visions of Heaven; your parents thought you were slightly nuts.   They kick you out of the house, but when they kicked you out, “What did you do?”

Hank:  Well, I remember and it was pretty hurtful for my Dad and I both just because, you know as we talk about it today, you know He basically gave me an ultimatum and that was, “Deny Jesus, get out of this what he thought was a cult or get out.”  And I had nowhere to go and I remember the loneliest feeling that I had and I tell you for those that are listening today, you know, you always know how strong your Christianity is when it’s tested.  And I knew in my heart and I only had been saved a few months, I knew that what I received was the real deal.  That I was willing as an eighteen year old kid to pack up my bags, not knowing where I was going to go and risk it all for this Jesus.  But I remember God was so good He knows our steps and He orders our steps.  Prior to me getting kicked out I went to a youth program that somebody invited me to, and a young man who, later would become my roommate handed me his phone number saying “Listen if you ever need anything, call me.”  So after I got kicked out, I packed all my stuff up, got in my car and I drove off not knowing where to go and I pulled over to a, in those days we didn’t have cell phones, you know these are the olden days and this is back, you know, back in the eighties you know I used the pay phone.  And I called this number and this gentleman that later became my roommate, he said “You won’t believe it my roommate just moved out, he’s in the service, we have an opening, why don’t you come.  Well, you know it was not in a very nice part of the city, but I was just glad to have a place to live.  And it was that little house; in a really not so nice area of Omaha is where God and I met.  And I used to have a lot of my spiritual experiences take place.

Sid:  And you know you had some amazing spiritual experiences when you chose God, over the comforts that were available to you.  All you had to do was deny God and you could have stayed at home, but it’s almost like for the moment you got born again and prayed all night in tongues and had your first vision; tell me some of the things that were going on in the streets.

Hank:  Well, one of the things that’s interesting, let me just back up, I think that’s powerful is, I didn’t have anybody to turn to.  My roommates were also in the service in this new house that I had just moved into.  I had two roommates and both were in the service, so they were gone a lot or they would leave for the holidays on what they call leave.  So I would be all alone, my family didn’t want anything to do with me because of my new found faith; so I had nothing else to do Sid, but just really pray, seek the face of God and go out on the streets and witness.  Well, I remember through those times of prayer I would begin to see angels.  The Lord would, one time I was praying and I saw something come shooting right past my feet; looked like a grotesque looking deformed pig.  And I knew then that through all the time that I’d been praying that the Lord was really opening up my spiritual eyes.  And I was beginning to become very aware of the spirit realm.  In some ways being kicked out was a blessing in the sense that I had nowhere else to turn, but to God.  And one of the things that happened is I remember, and I want to encourage your listeners you know sometimes we’re listening for a sentence or we’re looking for a paragraph when God speaks to us.  But the Bible, if you ever noticed it says a word of knowledge.  A word of prophecy, a word of wisdom, and God will always speak a word and as you act on that word more will come.  Well, one day, I had been praying in the afternoon and I’ll just tell you praying in the Spirit is so powerful.  Okay, it helps to activate sensitivity to the Spirit realm, but it also builds you up to where you are able to minister in the Spirit.  I think that one of the greatest ways is Jesus’ first miracle; He turned water into wine.  Wine is revelation, wine also speaks of the Holy Spirit and He drew out of it.  When you pray in the Holy Spirit a transformation takes place, and you’re able to tap into the realm of the supernatural realm of revelation; that’s what new wine speaks of and then you draw out of it, by acting on what you hear.  I heard the Lord say to me, just like the days of Ananias when he heard a name of a street, I didn’t even know about Ananias I was a young Christian, but the Lord said to me, “I want you to go to E Street.”  And that was the only thing I heard, I thought it was just me and I wrote it down, “Go to E Street.”  I kept on praying in the Spirit, and then I heard Him say, “Go to E Street and He said, “I want you to witness for me.”  So I wrote that down, “Go to E Street and witness for the Lord.”  And so my roommate came home later that night, he happened to be in town, and he said, “Let’s go out street witnessing,” and I said “That’s right, God gave me a directive, He said, God to E Street.”  Okay, just like Ananias heard, “Go to a Street called Strait.” We decided to head across the river and go obey what I’d heard, “Go to E Street, witness.”  The problem was Sid, the Lord did not give us all the details; He never does.  It’s in your obedience to act on what you hear and this works with prophecy even today when I prophecy over nations.  Sometimes I only hear a word, I only hear a sentence, something small, but when I step out the rest comes.  So we started driving across the river on E Street, so we thought, forty-five minutes later we didn’t see anything, because the Lord began to give us more detail.  He said, “When you go to E Street,” as we were in the car He said, “Look, you’ll find a party, you’ll hear loud music, you are to go in and that the house I want you to speak to.”  Well, forty-five minutes, we didn’t see any party, we didn’t hear anything.  The problem was we were on F Street and my roommate was driving and he had us on the wrong Street for forty-five minutes.  But I always say, I’d rather be on the wrong street trying to obey God than not doing anything at all.  So what happened is, we pull up to E Street, and sure enough there was a party with music and you got to hear what happened.  Are you ready for this?

Sid:   I can’t wait.

Hank:  Ha-ha, okay God’s got a sense of humor, after forty-five minutes of being on the wrong street; we pull up to this house just like the Lord said on E Street.  It was the only party on E Street, these two guys, it was right around Halloween, these two guys dressed as devils come walking out of the house and they had some alcohol in their hand and they went to, for your listeners pardon this, but they went to relieve themselves.  And as my roommate and I were like, “God what do we do now You know you never told us how we were suppose to go into this house?”  The funny thing is as we walked up to them, a few minutes later they thought we were angels, and they were so drunk they literally thought we were angels and I almost wanted to tell them that I was Gabriel, but I told them I said, “No, we’ve been sent from the Lord, we want to go in this house and we want to talk to whoever is the owner.”  And so they were so drunk they were college guys, they thought we were angels and of course we got escorted into this party now by two guys, dressed as devils.  Now God has a sense of humor, and all that came is it started from was my prayer time.

Sid:   So what did you say there though?

Hank:  Well, let me tell you, thank God that I didn’t get beat up, because it was a football party of these guys that were in college. We went in and they had the television on and I remember glancing at the television and there was something in appropriate on there and I remember yelling, “Turn that off I have something to say.” And of course, my spokesman, one of the devils, a guy dressed as a devil yells out “This guy is an angel, everybody listen up.”  Well, you know God’s sense of humor, they shut off the television; they quieted down in the room and one of the guy’s that owned the house you know of course he wanted us to leave, but that’s when the anointing dropped in there room.  And my roommate and I began to witness to these people and I wish I knew and could tell you there was salvations; I really don’t believe that there was that day, but there was some tremendous seeds that were planted.  And years later I had a young man show up in my church here in Omaha and he said to me, he said “Do you remember the day that you walked into a party, said, I was there I saw you on TV?”  Because you know we’re on TV here on commercials here in Omaha.  And he said, “I saw you and I just wanted to come and tell you I was in that party that day that you walked in,” Years later he must have gotten saved.

Sid:   You know, despise not small beginnings, God uses everything.  And now I mean I am kind of overwhelmed with some of the prophecies that you’ve had that have come to pass; and the things you know about the future and overwhelmed over the creative miracles.  This lady you prayed for, she had her female parts removed and then she had a baby, really?

Hank:  Yeah, let me tell you Sid, in the early years of my ministry, you know I would say early not that it doesn’t happen now, is that sometimes there is the innocence that we carry, naivety that is very healthy, not saying that you do things foolishly or immature, but we’re at a whole other dimension of faith.  You know, Jesus said you know, “Come like children,” there is a childlike faith that we’re to possess.  And you know it’s kind of like this when it comes to the gifts of the Spirit, I don’t know if you are like me, but whenever you get, …

Sid: Well, I’ll tell you what, I am like we’re out of time right now, we’ll pick up here on tomorrows broadcast; what a creative miracle.

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah, he had a revelation from God.  Jesus literally came to him and downloaded information on how to pray the way that Jesus prayed to get the results that Jesus got.  Mel, tell me the first time that you prayed for a dead person and they came back to life.

Mel:  Okay, it would have been in 1991 and I went to Monterrey, Mexico.  A pastor friend of mine, he’d married a Mexican lady.  His name is Pastor Bill Clifton and he could very all of these miracles, Pastor Bill Clifton, he lives in West Frankford, Illinois.  And so he set this crusade up and the very first night I’m preaching and I’m so excited because this is a first miracle meeting outside of country and so there wasn’t a lot of people there maybe 6 to 700 people something like that.  And we put banners up, “Bring the blind, the deaf, the crippled, the incurable, bring those that…even the dead.”  And I said that because Jesus said that He said, go raise the dead and so forth and do all of these things and it was the last thought in my mind that they’re going to bring a dead person.  So I’m preaching this sermon, I’m real excited and so I’m full of emotions and really preaching strong and right in the middle of my sermon all of a sudden four men are carrying this lady, one man on each arm, one man on each leg and they carried her and they bring her here and lay her on the ground under this big tent.  And I asked this the interpreter I asked, “What are these guys doing?”  And they said, “Well you have been advertizing, because we had advertisements with billboards and bull horns, people advertizing for us to do all these things and you advertised to bring the dead and so she’s dead.  The doctor said that she has already had one or two heart attacks and if she has another one she’ll die.  And so earlier this day she had another one and she died; and so one of the neighbors said, “Take her there!”  And so that evening they brought her and she’s dead; I’d been pasturing full time since 1972 and so I’ve seen a lot of dead corpse and she’s dead and she’s laying on the ground.  And so I’m thinking, the first thing I’m thinking is that I’ve never prayed for a dead person before and I’m thinking, man God why couldn’t we have had at least some headache’s or something first, let me warm up to this.  And so none of those things happened, I prayed for the lady, nothing happened, nothing happened at all, but I prayed with my whole heart and I said, “Okay God, I did my part the rest is up to you.”  I went back to preaching and in fact I got away from the lady and probably about ten minutes later all of a sudden the crowd, these Mexican people are all standing and shouting and I turned around and looked and that woman is up walking around and sort of dancing.  And so that was my first experience of praying for somebody with my whole heart that was dead and so that took place.

Sid:  Tell me also in Monterrey, Mexico about the woman whose one leg was at least half a foot shorter than the other.

Mel:  Right, it was a little more than a half a foot shorter than the other leg and she was, her body was deformed, she had like, to the best of my remembrance it looked like she had a hump back that her back was bowed over, it looked like there was a hump probably at least four inches thick on her back.  And so I brought her up on the platform because I’m convinced that we’re living in sometimes where the Apostle Paul said, “That I come not with Excellency of speech but I come with demonstration and power.” I think that there is a time, this is the time, in fact that is one of the things that the Lord has told me that the shortest dispensation is about to take place and we could have crossed that threshold already.  Dispensation of demonstration, people need to see the demonstrative miracle working power of God.  That brings masses to people, people that can’t even understand your language they can understand that you have a God that’s more than enough and that you have a God that’s greater than all these other religions and isms and schisms it speaks a lot of truth.  And so I bring people on the platform and demonstrate the power of God.  I did that I put her on some chairs so where the people could see the short leg and I prayed with my whole heart and within my goodness within three seconds, something like that that leg just grew straight out.  Her body straightened out.

Sid:  Now I’ve seen the leg grow out a half an inch, even an inch, but I’ve never seen a leg grow out more than half a foot.  That must have been amazing to watch!

Mel:  Absolutely, and we do have a video it’s a long story, but I’ve got so many video’s and so I’m trying to find it, but we have shown that at our church.  But Pastor Bill Clifton was there you could call him and he’ll verify that particular miracle and the lady stood up, she’s perfectly healed.  The next night she came the first time in her whole life she wore a pair of high heels and they were spike high heels, red high heels the first time in her life she was so proud to be normal.

Sid:  How about, I mean this is so well documented the Calico Queen of Guyana.

Mel:  Okay, this happened a few years ago where we were doing a miracle crusade in the country of Guyana, South America and so there was about 1,200 people there and I was praying first for the blind people. And so there was probably about…

Sid:  Do many people get their sight back under your ministry? 

Mel:  I would say about 98% of the people that are blind will receive some manifestation and probably maybe 30% that are totally blind receive full manifestation.

Sid:  How many people were at this event?

Mel:  Well, there was only about 1,200 people, but now I had prayed for her she received full sight and the crowd came…

Sid:  Now, was she totally blind?

Mel:  She was totally blind; she could not see your hand three inches in front of her face.  And the next morning after she was healed because the crowd started shouting and you know I believe in being very kind and considerate, but I believe we have to be strong, this is how you are going to receive and if you don’t do these things you are not going to receive.  And when I finally said that she received and boy I mean when I said that instantly her eyes opened, she read a newspaper on the platform and if they’d get hold of Pastor Filbert London in the country of Guyana, he’s probably one of the most well know ministries in the country of Guyana because he set this crusade up for me.  He’ll verify that, he’ll also verify they had me on nationwide TV the next morning asking me how in the world could you…

Sid:  Geraldo where are you when we need you?  Okay, tell me in Bulgaria about the man whose face was eaten up with cancer?

Mel:  Okay, that happened just recently a year or two ago, maybe last year in fact I’ve given you the information where you can get a hold, his first name is Vassal (and I can’t  pronounce the last name and he’s in Bulgaria we have that on film.  There was a man whose face was eaten up by cancer, he had a mask on.  We prayed for him, prayed with his whole heart, he fell in the Spirit and that’s the last time I’ve seen him.  The next time I’ve seen him this pastor interviewed some doctors and they also interviewed him and his face was just brand new, not a scar on his face totally healed by the power of God, recreative miracle.

Sid:  …tell me about the eight year old girl in Japan.

Mel:  Well, I can teach people this if they just read the book I can only be at every place at the same time, only Jesus could do that.  But in Japan I have teaching sessions where I teach people how to do this and so I showed the people because they are very intellectual people and I wanted to show them how simple it is.  And everything must be simple, and that’s the way that my book is because Psalm 119 verse 130 the Bible says, “That the entrance of God’s word they give life, they give understand to the simple.”  If it’s not simple God is not involved in it.  And that’s where most of the time people make it too complicated, it’s simple.  So I brought a little eight year old girl on the platform that she wasn’t even born again and I explained to her in about two minutes how to pray with your whole heart what it meant to be born again and then filled with the evidence of speaking in tongues and she wanted both.  She received both then I brought her on the platform and then I explained to her just about two minutes how to pray with her whole heart and then we prayed incurable conditions on the platform and this is videoed.  I don’t have the videos, but you if you get a hold of Pastor Hiroko in Tokyo she sets up all my meetings and they have the videos of this little girl.  She prayed for people that had incurable conditions for like fifteen years, lived with pain for fifteen years and the people, these adults were totally instantly healed by God’s power.  And so it can be learned and even remember Jesus said the works that I do shall you do also.

Sid:  Oh, our time is up Mel…