Archive for June, 2009
SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with David Tomberlin. You just saw a clip of how the word of knowledge operates. David, what exactly is a word of knowledge? How would you explain it?
DAVID: Simply put, it’s just when God speaks a piece of information to you. As you saw in the video there, those were pieces of information about peoples’ name, their sickness. My mechanic, his wife’s specific area. Simply put, it’s a word of knowledge. It’s knowledge from God that He speaks to you.
SID: Ok. You had some pretty outrageous things happen in Holland. Tell me about that.
DAVID: This is just a few months ago. I was ministering right outside of Amsterdam. I was in a service. The names over there are different. They’re not Bill, Henry, Steve like we’re used to. So the Lord did something unique, He started giving me the first part of the spelling of the names. So I would spell out part of their name and they would come up and say a name I’d never heard of. It really hit home for them and me that God is on top of the situation and knows the people there.
SID: Give me an example.
DAVID: I remember there was one, and today I still couldn’t tell you the name, but I spelled it “M, A, R.” God kept speaking to me “M, A, R”. Up comes a lady with a name I’d never heard of. I want to say that she had a healing condition that was immediately healed right then. That I don’t actually recall right now, but what really stood out was the spelling of the name and how amazed she was, and how amazed I was.
SID: Now this has been happening to you for a long time, but are you still in awe when God does this.
DAVID: It’s always fresh to me. It never gets old. It’s always spontaneous, exciting.
SID: How about the lady in London?
DAVID: This was right outside of London. I’d called up a health issue, a health condition, and the lady came up. I’m holding her hand, and then God starts speaking to me “Susan. Sue or Susan.” I’ll get part of a name, then I’ll get more.
SID: So you get a partial information so to speak?
DAVID: Yeah, sometimes it’s just that repetitive pulsating “Sue, Susan, Sue, Susan.” Like that. That’s just how it came to me. So I’m holding this lady’s hand and I go “Sue, Susan.” I’m looking around the meeting room, “Sue, Susan.” She goes “Oh, that’s me.” She’s all polite and British. It was the lady that I was praying for. So she got hit by the power of God and was touched mightily.
SID: Does this happen only in churches, or does this happen wherever you are?
DAVID: Well, like the first example that I gave…
SID: Right, the mechanic’s shop.
DAVID: It happens out, and that’s really exciting. Then it’s fun when it happens in church. It never gets old. It’s like a fisherman catching a fish. I don’t care how old he is, how many times he’s caught a fish, it’s exciting when you catch one.
SID: Between you and me, are there times when you hear something and you’re out in public, and you just… “I don’t want to say it. It may not be true.”
DAVID: You always think that.
SID: I mean you’re taking a risk when you’re doing this.
DAVID: You always think that, but at the end of the day, what I try to do is not care about my position, but care about the person’s position that needs to hear from God. If I’m wrong, they walk away. What are they going to do, chase me down? So I just try to deliver whatever God speaks to me. And also, there’s something that happens when you get a real clear word of knowledge. You may be nervous, you may be scared, but there’s a faith that comes with that word of knowledge, and then you’re excited to do it.
SID: Now you like to teach a lot on how everyone can move in the word of knowledge. Do you believe everyone can?
DAVID: Absolutely. Everybody who’s been immersed in the Spirit of God has access to the gifts of God and gifts of the Holy Spirit. I believe anybody can. And really, it comes back to Jesus’ simple statement, “My sheep hear My voice.”
SID: So right now, look in the camera and tell me what God’s speaking to people.
DAVID: Ok. Actually Sid, I heard this earlier, just a couple of healing words. One for arthritis. There’s a gentleman watching named Barry… See, it just comes on me just as I’m speaking it. There’s a gentleman watching named Barry, and you have arthritis. God, I ask You in the name of Yeshua, touch him now. Heal him now in Jesus’ mighty name. Also those watching who may have arthritis and your name is not Barry, believe in faith and I believe got will touch you and heal you now. There’s also a knee injury, a gentleman in a motorcycle accident recently, in the last week or two weeks… Seven days. That’s what it is exactly. See, I thought it was a week or two weeks, then I see seven days. That’s what it was.
SID: Whoa, did you see that?
SID: That’s neat.
DAVID: It’s almost like a TV screen, but more in what I would call my inner eye, inner ear. I hear internally. It’s not like I hear like I hear you speak, but I hear in my heart and then also see as well.
SID: Are you seeing anything else?
DAVID: Yeah. I could literally do this for a long time. God, I want to ask for faith for people to believe to do this for themselves. The closer you get to God, it’s just like having a relationship on earth. You would tell me things Sid, because we know each other. God will tell you things if you know God and get close to Him. God, I release that faith right now and that trust in knowing You, to operate in the word of knowledge. Skin diseases. There’s a rash right now being healed. There’s a rash, in Jesus’ name, being healed. Thank You, Lord. Cancer is going right now in Jesus’ name. Thank You, Lord. Fibromyalgia. Thank You God. In Jesus’ name, be healed. In fact, the person with fibromyalgia that’s being healed, you’re feeling like an unnatural wind. It’s not from a breeze, there’s like a wind coming over you. That’s God healing you. It’s a lady. Thank You Lord, in Jesus’ name.
SID: You know what I’m reminded of, of that young 21 year old that was filled with depression. These evil spirits lifted off of, made Jesus his Lord, filled with God’s Spirit. Tell me again what you felt, how clean you felt, and how much love you felt.
DAVID: It was truly going out of darkness into light. I felt depression, I wanted to die, I had no hope, I had no joy. The opposite happened after the Spirit of God touched me and I was immersed and saturated with the Spirit of God. That’s what I remember more than anything. As much as the light and the river and the falling down and the evil spirits coming out, more than anything I remember that love. I just felt cared for. I felt loved.
SID: How would you like to feel loved? How would you like to feel cared for? Are you depressed? Are you in fear? Are you in torment? I know something. I know God’s not a respecter of persons. What He did for David, He did for me. What He did for me, He’s running with His arms wide open towards you right now. All you have to do is receive. You see, He actually came two thousand years ago. His name in Hebrew is Yeshua. In English, it’s Jesus. And He died for every sin you’ve ever committed, so that you can stand in God’s presence without condemnation, and receive that love. If you would pray with me, that’s the first step. It’s like putting little toes in the water. I believe there’s going to be a river that is going to hit you. Say out loud with your mouth “I believe that Jesus died for my sins. I turn from my sins. Jesus, come inside of me.” Say it out loud. “Jesus, come inside of me. Take over my life. I make You Lord of my life. Fill me with Your Spirit. Fill me with Your Holy Spirit to overflowing. Let me experience Your love, Jesus.” And even when we go off the air, you keep telling Him “I want to experience Your love. I love You Lord. I love You Jesus. I love You.”
On It’s Supernatural: what really caused the economic crisis in America? How will it affect the real estate market? Why are gold and silver better assets than cash? And what is the solution to the economic dilemma?
Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth had spent twenty-five years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of “It’s Supernatural.”
SID: Hello, welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. Is America at its tipping point? I mean is America going to financially collapse? These are questions that everyone is asking themselves, and asking other people. I don’t know a man better qualified in the natural and the supernatural to answer that question than my friend Dr. Larry Bates. He is a former bank CEO, a former member of the Tennessee House of Representatives, where he was chairman of the powerful committee on banking and commerce, Larry, the big question I have is how did we get in such a mess? This country has always done so well economically.
LARRY: Well the prosperity has been a facade, you know you can cover up your largesse, the mistakes, the structural aspects, you can paper over it, pretend it is not there, but eventually you have to deal with it. We have a debt-based economy; we have a debt-based monetary system.
SID: When you say debt-based economy, explain what you mean.
LARRY: Okay back in 1913 we gave a private bank called the Federal Reserve, which by the way is neither federal and has doubtful reserves, it is a private bank that is owned by member banks, we gave them–
SID: So if it is private, why do we call it federal?
LARRY: Well, that was part of the ruse, you know in Germany one of the old banking families, Nathan Rothschild, said, “Give me control of a nations monetary system and I care not who writes their laws.” And so whoever controls the money, we read it in the scriptures Ecclesiastes 10: 19, “Money answereth all things, but the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.” So why do we get up and go to work in the morning? To get a paycheck. Why do we save for retirement? For a paycheck. What is a paycheck? It is money. Money buys us food, clothing, housing, recreation, transportation, money is central to everything we do. So if you get control of a nation’s monetary system, you control everything that is going on. And thus we find ourselves in a problem because we have a lack of liquidity in the marketplace; we have more debt than there is cash. And as we have said many times, cash at the crash will be king. So this is where we find ourselves today because of the structural nature of our system. We have roughly a forty trillion dollar domestic debt.
SID: that is almost hard for me to fathom, forty trillion dollars in debt, and you think you have problems.
LARRY: But see that is not the worst part of it, we have the hedge funds, the derivatives, we estimate that the notional value, and I emphasize “notional value” is over four hundred trillion dollars.
SID: You lost me, notional value?
LARRY: Three times, three times the total domestic debt of the entire world, and this is what is unraveling right now, it is leverage upon leverage upon leverage. But lets look at the basic stuff the average person is having to face today, forty trillion of domestic debt, the federal government debt of over nine trillion, state county municipal debt, corporate debt, mortgage debt and consumer debt all put in one big pile. Now this debt is like a herd of cows, it is eating and drinking every day, it has to be serviced. So how do we service debt? With money. Then let’s look at the supply of money available. And we look in the Federal Reserves data, the MZM, that is the money zero maturity, that is the broad base of money supply, it is everybody’s walking around money, checkbook money plus their savings account money all put together, it is a little over eight trillion dollars. So let’s do the math, subtract eight trillion of money from forty trillion dollars of debt, we have a thirty-two trillion dollar problem, as they say at NASA, “Houston, we have a problem.”
SID: So what can we do about it?
LARRY: Well thirty-two trillion, thirty-two trillion of the debt, the debtors have been asked to do the impossible, pay back money that does not exist, this is why we saw the recent collapse of Lehman Brothers.
SID: But what about the fact that our United States government is pumping money into these companies that are collapsing; is that good or bad?
LARRY: Well it is neither good nor bad, let me put it to you this way, philosophically I think it is bad, but reality says that if they had not done it we would have had a total collapse of the entire US economy that would have a ripple effect that would carry through to the entire world economy. You see take that thirty-two trillion dollars, thirty-two trillion that the debtors have been asked to do the impossible, pay back money that does not exist. And so as a result one of two things will happen, we know exactly one of two things will happen, these are the parameters that Ben Bernanke the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Henry Paulson, the Treasury Secretary had to work with. Number one if the Fed did nothing, we would have default, we would have collapse.
SID: So they have to do something.
LARRY: They have to do something.
SID: Let me ask you, just interject this question, where does the buck stop, does it stop with the most
powerful person in the United States, the President of the United States?
LARRY: Well I was speaking to a conference in Singapore in March of 2008, and this was a group of bank CEO’s, government officials, and corporate CEO’s, we got to question/answer session and one of the people
said, “if you were on the phone with Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernanke today what would you tell him. I said, “Well I would ask him a question and the question is, ‘Mr. Chairman, how much economic carnage are you willing to preside over?’” And the answer is “slim to none.” Then I would say continue what you are doing, continue pumping in more money and credit into the economy but step it up a notch or two, because one of two things will happen, either the collapse or you will have to print more money and more credit. Now Sid, this is the economic equivalent of crack cocaine for the economy, you see it will solve your pain for a temporary period of time, but in the end you have to deal with it again. You see the solution to the problem is what caused the problem to begin with, problems begat solutions that begat new problems that begat new solutions, new problems and on and on and on. Ultimately we will have a collapse, because this thing will get bigger and bigger. The Federal Reserve quite frankly over the past five to ten years lost control of monetary policy.
SID: So but what you are telling me is the most power is not with the President, but with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve.
LARRY: That’s right.