It's Supernatural

SID: Hello. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally, it is naturally supernatural. How would you like to have every one of your prayers answered? I mean all of them. Would you really like that? Would you? Would you like all your prayers answered? Well my guest has gone through and learned how faith operates the hard way. I don’t want any of you to go through what she went through. But as a result of the process, she saw the most amazing supernatural answers to prayer, and through revelation, God has taught her how to teach you to have your prayers answered. You want it? Now I know Jennifer LeClaire as the news editor with a major Christian publication, “Charisma Magazine”. But it wasn’t always that way, Jennifer. In fact, when you were three years old you came from a non-Christian home. You actually could see something. You saw a spirit of fear and it has plagued you, it plagued you most of your life.

JENNIFER: It did. I saw that spirit of fear, Sid, in my bedroom. I didn’t know what it was, of course, at the time, being three years old. My mother thought it was my imagination and would come in with a broom and try to chase it away. But it was. It was a spirit of fear that targeted me from a very early age to destroy my destiny.

SID: Now you had a boyfriend you were living with and you had an altercation, and you called 911, and the police came. And then you decided this is going too far, don’t want to do it. And so the police officer didn’t like what you did. There were some charges filed because you didn’t want to file something against your boyfriend, and they haul you off to jail. But then they release you, but you’re not allowed to change cities without notifying them. And everything is going along fine. You then eventually marry this boyfriend and you’re married, and you have a child. And he says, “I’m going on vacation for two weeks.” And you say, “Okay, bye-bye honey.” And then he never shows up. And so she files for divorce. Her attorney in searching things finds out that the paperwork she was supposed to have filed, which she did, to change cities, since she was on probation, she didn’t do. And then in the middle of the night, minding her own business, the police show up at her door. What happened?

JENNIFER: Yeah, they did. I was falsely accused seven years earlier. And I thought it was cleared. I thought it was done. I had done my paperwork. I had done my duty. And sure enough, the police come knocking on my door in the middle of the night. Now I had hired a defense attorney who told me this is a paperwork issue, don’t worry about it, we’re going to take care of it, and I believed him. Then long not before I had a maid who tried to actually extort money from me. She wanted to be paid more than what I was willing to pay her, and she had seen the paperwork from the attorney, and decided, you know what, if I can’t get what I want from you, I’m going to call the police on you, and that’s what she did.

SID: Okay. So now you’re taken away in the middle of the night. You’re put in jail. You have five years of hard time facing you. You’re worried about what’s going to happen to your three-year-old. Your husband has totally disappeared. And some evangelists come to the jail and they start telling you the Good News. Coming from the background you came from, how could you just simply become a believer? Wasn’t that was called jailhouse religion?

JENNIFER: That’s what a lot of people thought when I got out of jail, Sid. But you know, the testimonies, there’s such power in the testimonies, and the testimonies were so powerful. One of the women had been delivered from heroin. She was a heroin addict. And my best friend at the time was a heroin addict. And when I saw what God had done in this woman’s life it so touched my heart. The Holy Spirit, the conviction fell on me, and I decided, you know what, I’m going all the way with Jesus

SID: You went all the way in the world and now you’re going all the way with Jesus. She gets a Bible and for the first time in her life, she devours the Bible. And then the Spirit of God talks to her and says, you’ll be out in 40 days. Now you tell people you’ll be out in 40. Why was it impossible to be out in 40 days?

JENNIFER: It was impossible. First of all, they denied me bail three times, even with an ankle bracelet and even with home arrest, despite the fact that I was working for a Fortune 500 company at the time. So it was incredible that I couldn’t get out. But nevertheless, the judge was going to be on vacation on the 40^th day. There was no way I could even stand before the judge on day 40.

SID: Well day 40 comes and what happened?

JENNIFER: Day 40 came. I was waiting to see another judge, sitting in a cell by myself for hours, where it seemed like hours. I get a phone call from my attorney and he said, “Jennifer, you don’t have to stand before the judge. This has all been taken care of. Get ready to go home. You’re walking free and clear.”

SID: Forty days! There’s something about the number 40. Okay. But what about all the pills you were on for depression and for anxiety? How many years were you on these pills?

JENNIFER: At that time, about 11 years.

SID: Well what happened with that addiction?

JENNIFER: Well you know, they came to give me my medicine and after I got saved they still wanted me to take these medications, and I said, I don’t need this medicine, Jesus. I had joy in my heart for the first time ever. I was free. And they said, you have to take this medication. You know, we went back and forth. Eventually I decided I’d just better do what they say. So I took it. My body rejected it. They didn’t like what they saw next, and they said, okay, you don’t have to take that medicine any more.

SID: Yes, but what happened to your anxiety and your fear, and depression?

JENNIFER: That all went away. I still had a battle to face with fear, but the depression was gone.

SID: And you didn’t take the pills?

JENNIFER: I never took the pills again.

SID: Not only that, she learned faith to such a degree, and I don’t know how you pulled this off, when they let her out in 40 days, all the records were erased. It’s almost like what the Messiah does to our sins. How did that happen?

JENNIFER: You know, there’s just no record of it.

SID: I tell you what. We’re going to come back and I want you to learn how to pray like she prays. I want you to learn how to exercise faith like she exercised faith. Be right back.

Sid: My guest is Bill Morford I’m speaking to him at his home Lexington, South Carolina. Several years ago I got ahold of his Bible translation it is called “The Power New Testament” subtitled “Revealing Jewish Roots.”  When I saw that he had an explanation for such things as the Jewish roots, the Jewish idioms, the Jewish customs, even the tenses of the language that I had never seen in any other Bible before. It is like when the New Testament was written it was written in a Jewish land for Jewish people, and there was no need for explanation of these idioms; no need for explanation of these customs because all of the Jewish people that heard these letters that were read to them from congregation to congregation they understood it. Today a lot of the culture of Christianity has distorted the original meaning of the words in the New Testament. So Bill I am so grateful to the Lord that you invested your life in this “Power New Testament.” Out of curiosity what do you mean by the “Power New Testament?”

Bill: When I was translating Greek, when I was studying Greek, I saw that in the New Testament that the Greek had a lot of power. It was actually a good language for the Jewish authors to use, not as good as Hebrew but it could be just as powerful as Hebrew. But the power was not translated by the scholars that do our ordinary translation. I had no idea that I would eventually publish, but it just irritated me whenever I ministered. I would use the power and bring out the power that the authors had put into the New Testament. So when the Lord told me to get serious with it, and I knew I was going to publish I just translated literally what the authors had written. They often said things like “You must do this immediately,” or “You must continually do this.” Jesus gave stern rebukes at times. It’s just awesome the power that’s in there that’s just missed.

Sid: There are so many things we want to discuss that each one of these things… This is the amazing thing to me Bill, each one of the points that we’ll be discussing this week is enough to change someone’s destiny. For instance, one of my favorite words that you translate, and the way you translate it is the Greek word for “sickness.” Why did you translate that “evil” and perhaps you can give me a scripture where it is used?

Bill: Here’s an example of it in Matthew 4:24, “And His reputation spread through all Syria, and they brought to Him all those having various evils and various diseases, and being tormented and possessed by demons, and being moonstruck, and paralytics, and He healed them.” The word there translated “evils” is translated “sickness” in most translations.

Sid: Okay this is a good point to find out the revelation that God gave you personally about healings some 25 or more years ago. Tell me about that.

Bill: Well it was interesting He forced it on me, of course I believed in it, but it was night at 3:00 in the morning. One of my sons and I were driving back from New England to South Carolina at 3:00 in the morning on a Pennsylvania interstate that was really torn up, and it was shaking the car. The right lane was blocked off for resurfacing, my son was asleep in the backseat. A semi came up right on my back bumper with those big headlights shining and I had a pounding headache that wouldn’t quit. Nowhere to go couldn’t even slow down, so I cried out to Jesus and the headache vanished on the spot. Within a minute it came back and I just said “Oh no, oh no Jesus come back” and the headache left, and I haven’t had a headache since.

Sid: What about other sickness with you?

Bill: None, I haven’t had a sore throat, upset stomach…

Sid: Bill how old are you?

Bill: I’m 75.

Sid: And you’re telling me that you have not had to battle even diseases, and headaches, and stomachaches for how many years?

Bill: Well more than 25 even for headaches. My last prescription was given in 1956.

Sid: Hmm.  So you must have some great insight into healing, but to me once you realize that sickness and disease is evil, and evil doesn’t come from God, I imagine that alone helps you resist.

Bill: It sure does.

Sid: Is there any other insight that comes to mind about healing that has helped you remain in divine health?

Bill: No I’m just determined that he’s not gonna do it. If I get sniffles or something before I went to bed I rebuke it. Haven’t had any discomfort and no problem at night with a stuffy nose in the winter, or whatever.

Sid: Now I love your translation. I’m looking here at Matthew 5:1 many call it the Beatitudes, and you say “Blessed.” Your footnote here says “The Greek word translated “blessed” throughout the Beatitudes is “makarios,” and it means ‘Blessed and happy, or the repentant.’” Where did you get the word repentant?

Bill: That’s a Hebrew idiom that’s in there. That’s the poor in spirit.

Sid: I’ve heard so many people try to explain what that means, but it’s impossible to explain what that means if you don’t know the Hebrew idiom.

Bill: That’s right. I don’t know of any translation that translates the Hebrew idioms in there.

Sid: Okay, we were talking earlier about the title of your New Testament called “The Power New Testament.”  Give me an example of that.

Bill: Okay, Mark 11:23 is one of my favorites.

Sid: That’s one of my favorites too. I’m so glad you’re gonna read that. Here by the way I’ve got a copy, and those that are listening will have one very soon, but until you do I’m gonna turn to follow you that because I mean I have preached from your translation of this. Would you read that for our audience?

Bill: I surely will. “Truly I say to you that whoever would say to this mountain. ‘You must immediately be removed and you must immediately be cast into the sea,’ and would not doubt in his heart but would believe that what he is say is happening, it will be to him. Because of this I say to you, you must continually pray for everything, then for whatever you are asking, believe that you have taken it, and it will be there for you.”

Sid: You know the word that really gets me is when you say “believe that you have taken it.” I have actually preached in healing meetings I want you to reach into that invisible world for your healing, for whatever you need and just take it, grab it. I mean is that the way the Greek expresses it?

Bill: It is. It’s take and our polite translators say “receive” instead of “take.” See Jesus said, He didn’t say “Receive the Holy Spirit,” He said “Take the Holy Spirit.” We’re are supposed to be eager for all of the things of God, and just reach out and take it.

Sid: Let me tell you, I mean there’s just so much were gonnahave to talk about this week. I’ll tell you another favorite in your translation of mine that has opened… Every one of these nuggets Mishpochah open up a whole new realm of understanding from the idioms to the power behind these words, to the tenses, to the Hebrew roots, but in Matthew 18:18 let me read Bill’s translation “Truly I say to you: whatever you would bind upon” then in the footnote you explain “To bind is a Hebrew idiom meaning to forbid. Binding and losing refer specifically to the dietary, Sabbath, and other regulations, including civil law, as well as to spiritual things.” So “Truly I say to you: whatever you forbid upon the Earth will already have been forbidden in heaven with ongoing effect.” In other words, when the Lord prayed “Thy kingdom come thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven” it’s already been done in Heaven, that’s what this translation is telling me Bill.

Bill: Right.

SID: Sid Roth here with Steve Solomon. So what happens when a Jewish guy that’s deeply involved in mysticism, the occult, new age, trying to find what were you trying to find, what were you searching for Steve?

STEVE: You know there had to be more to life than just what I was living, there was something out there and I had, there was something drawing me to something, there had to be something more.

SID: All right , you asked two questions, repeat the questions and tell me what happened. Steve, okay, “Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are you real, are you out there?” “Is Jesus Christ who he says he is?” Suddenly, remember now for months I had been trying to find a supernatural experience, trying to have something happen, and nothing worked. Suddenly when I asked those two questions simultaneously, I know now what it was, I felt myself lifted out of my body, I felt myself, I know now my soul lifted out, and I saw simultaneously, now the room is dark, all the lights are out, a ball of fire, it looked just like the setting sun, amber in color, real bright, and a right hand came out from the center of this fire across the room, probably about forty feet away, across the room, touched me on my head, pushed my head straight back, and then I heard an audible voice and He said, “Yes I am, what you are doing is wrong, stop and follow Me.”

SID: Well did you just say, ignore it or what did you do with this.

STEVE: No, I was stunned. Two things, I didn’t know who to tell, I knew that I asked if God was alive, the God of my fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, my forefathers, and is Jesus Christ is who he says he is. I got one, “Yes I am, stop what you are doing, and follow me.” I totally stopped what I was doing, all the trying to meditate and all that stuff, I totally stopped, I went home, I didn’t tell anyone because, number one I didn’t know of any Jews who believed in Jesus of Nazareth as being the Son of God, I knew none. I never heard of this that any Jews did believe. And my wife had purchased a Bible when we were going through our marital problems, she had purchased a Bible and so secretly I would take her Bible and start reading the Bible, Old and New Testament behind her back for a few weeks and it was phenomenal. The words just like they were alive, they came off the page. You know I was raised you know and we in Massachusetts there were Jewish sections and Irish sections, and my Irish friends were named John and Matthew you see, and Mark, I thought those were Irish names, you know. They are Jewish names. You know guys in the New Testament like Matthew, you know, Mark, John, all these guys were Jews, and the word of God came alive to me Sid. I read everything, it was phenomenal.

SID: Well did you leave your wife anyway?

STEVE: No, I started preaching to my wife a couple of weeks later. I said you know Sid How did she take this?

STEVE: Not good at first, I said Diane we need to start living for the Lord, and she said, and she said to herself, what does this Jew know about my Jesus anyway? And so she found out that I knew more than what she, you know I told her, I have had an experience with Jesus, she came back to the Lord and the first thing the Lord did, the first thing, he gave us a phenomenal love for each other which stays even to this day and it has been thirty eight years.

SID: A funny story wit your mother-in-law, tell me that?

STEVE: Well, you know my mother-in-law, you know she went to the Four Square Church in Orlando, that’s where Diane got saved, in Orlando, and my mother-in-law was a life-long charter member of that church, she got saved after Diane went to that church as a child with a neighbor, now listen, and once in a while she would say, now Steve, Jesus is your Messiah, and it just wouldn’t mean anything to me, you know, and then she would turn to Diane and go, now Diane you know better, you are a backslider and you know better, but the first person I publicly told other than my wife, we would have dinner at my mother-in-laws house all the time, and then one night we left, I walked back into the door and said Ma I want to tell you something and she goes what? I said Jesus is who you say he is. And I turned around and walked out and she was stunned. And she came to find out that I was; that I had really had an experience with God.

SID: Talk about people being happy, can you imagine how happy his mother-in-law was, how happy his wife is now, how happy he is, how happy his children are, I mean his whole life was transformed, you want to know what happy is? The happiest music I have ever heard is on this CD, River Walk DNA, and there is a song, it is my favorite, it is called River of Life, do you like that?

STEVE: I love it.

SID: Because wherever the river goes, There is healing, let’s hear a selection.

§ music § All right, all right, all right Here we go § If you want to really get happy § § If you want to find yourself a friend § § Let go jump into the river § § For the river is where new life begins § § Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh § § If you want to really get happy § § If you want to find yourself a friend § § Let go jump into the river § § For the river is where new life begins § § If you will search for the river of life, § § Just raise your hands and shout § § If you will search for the river of life § § I’m going to take you to the river § § The river of life § § To the river, the river of life § § I’m going to take you to the river § § The river of life § § music § § All my friends are swimming in this river § § All my friends are swimming in this river §

SID: Now Craig Hill has identified seven critical times that you should be blessed, and many people have missed these. For instance, pray at conception. You talk about a blessing. Explain.

CRAIG: First of all, you were conceived within the protective hedge of the covenant of marriage. Now in the ancient Hebrew culture, how much chance that you’d be conceived outside of wedlock? Almost zero. Today, how much chance you’d be conceived outside wedlock? Well it’s close to 40 percent in our general population, and certain particularly groups it’s as much as 70 percent in our culture. And secondly, that you would be wanted, that your parents would want a child. And today, it’s very common that a child would be conceived and the parents don’t want that child.

SID: What would happen if a child is conceived and the parents really did not want a child at that time, or didn’t even want a child, but they were willing to abort, but they might have talked about it a lot while the baby inside the mother? Would that affect?

CRAIG: What many people don’t realize is that little children in the womb are very, very sensitive. And they pick up everything emotionally from the mother and even from the father. So they could pick up a huge amount of emotional rejection even in the womb. Where people will struggle for a lifetime with feelings, I don’t belong, I shouldn’t be here, there’s something wrong with me, I’m a mistake, nobody wants me, nobody will love me. That’s the opposite of what God intended. God intended that every little child from the very day they’re conceived should have feelings on the inside. I belong. I’m supposed to be here. I’m wanted. You know, this is amazing thing. God told me one time, Sid, “Your mother only carried you in the womb for nine months. But God carried you in His spirit for thousands of years. And at just the right moment, He released you on this earth.

SID: That is good.

CRAIG: You’re not a mistake. God planned for you even though maybe your mother didn’t.

SID: Tell me about a single mom that raises a child, doesn’t have a father. The child is raised without the father. You talk so much about the father’s blessing. What happens to that child?

CRAIG: Well you know the wonderful thing that we always find is redemption in scripture. And this is the amazing thing. God Himself says, I will be a father to the fatherless. God says, I will be a husband to the one who has no husband. And you know what I found time and time again, Sid? Is that people tell me that when they really understand that a son or daughter, or a single mom says, God, I’m taking you up on your word. You said you would be a father to my son or to my daughter. And the natural father is not there. God, would you please do that. That son or daughter has an intimacy with the Father that is rare, that many other people who don’t have a father don’t have. And in addition to that, God will send other godly men to come alongside and to speak into the life of that son or daughter.

SID: Tell me about the single mom that had the five-year old. I find this almost hard to believe.

CRAIG: I had an incredible experience where I learned about the power of marriage and the protective hedge that a marriage is. A woman came to me and she said, “I’ve got a five-year old little son and I wonder if you can help me.” I said, “What’s the problem?” She said, “He is full of lust.” That’s strange. Most five year olds I know, they’re not even alive to sex. They don’t even know it exists. She said, “Well not my son. He is full of lust. He touches other little children his age in sexual inappropriate ways. He even touches grown adults in inappropriate ways.” She said, “There isn’t a week that doesn’t go by that I don’t receive a call from his teacher or principal at school and he’s done inappropriate things. And we’ve prayed for him. Our pastor has prayed for him. He’s been seeing a psychiatrist for three months and nothing has changed. Can you help me.” Well as I began to pray, I heard the Holy Spirit say, “Just start at the beginning of his life.” So I asked this woman, “Can you tell me how your son was conceived.” She said, “Well,” she began to weep. She said, “That was actually a very immoral time in my life. Even the night when he was conceived, I was with more than one man. I’m not even sure which one probably was his father.” She said, “That continued for another few months and then I met Messiah, gave my life to him. I was delivered from the lust. Never been involved in that lifestyle again. My son has never been molested or violated in any way. I don’t know where he could have gotten this.” And as she shared that, I heard the Father say, “That little boy was demonized by the spirit of lust at the very moment of conception.” I thought, God, that’s unfair. That isn’t right. That shouldn’t happen to anybody. And that’s when I heard the Father say, “Son, for the first time you understand the Law of Moses.” I thought, the Law of Moses. I was thinking back, oh, capital punishment for fornication. I thought, God, that’s so severe. If we apply that today there wouldn’t be hardly anybody left to be alive. And I said, God, why was that so severe? And I heard the Father say, “Son, that wasn’t my severity. That was my mercy for the children.” Because in that society there was no little child that would be conceived without a protective head of marriage because everybody had it. I shared that with this woman and she began to weep. She said, “I did that. I opened the door for my son. What can I do?” And I said, “Well the bad news is you did open the door and you created the situation where there was no protection for your son because the covenant of marriage is that protection. And yes, he’s been demonized. But here’s the good news. Jesus Christ died. His blood was shed to break the power of that because that lust is a curse. That’s not a blessing. And you opened the door. You have authority to close it.” And I said, “Here’s what I want you to do. You and your husband bring your son in here to the pastor and you renounce the inequity of lust.” That actually, as I talked to her more discovered it had been passed down from several generations. She wasn’t the first to open that door. I said, “You break the power of that inequity of lust, renounce it and release it to the cross of Messiah and then exchange that for purity that Jesus died to purchase for you and your son. And then you release that blessing upon your son. And then you speak to the demonic spirit, command it to leave in the name of Yeshua, and it will go. I came back two months later to that city. This woman came running up to me with a five-year old little boy with her and she said, “Remember me?” And I didn’t. But she began to share the story. And I said, now I remember you. And she said, “You wouldn’t believe what happened. We did what you said and when we commanded that demonic spirit to go,” she said, “instantly it left.” She burst into tears and she said, “I got my son back! I got my son back! He’s a normal five-year old little boy.”

SID: Listen to this. If you know the truth, the truth will set you free in any area. Nothing is hopeless in Jesus. Study the truth book, the Bible. Do what it says. Watch the victory.

Sid:Well my guest is red hot for the Messiah, and we are going to do a very different show this week something that it’s been needed for a long time.  Let me give you an example; I pray for people all the time, I mean it’s just astounds me the number of people that are physically healed and it seems like it’s getting more and more, but many times when I pray for people I meet them a month later, two months later and they have the same condition wrong with them.  Why is this?  Well I used to think, and I still do I might add, that they didn’t know how to fight that spirit that came upon them; perhaps there’s another reason and this makes as much sense as I just said to you before; perhaps there’s something toxic in their body or perhaps their eating habits are so bad, or perhaps they’re so over weight that whatever condition that they had that they were healed of when they go back to that same lifestyle they end up having the same condition again.  In fact my guest, who is known by millions of people as the “Juice Lady” her name is Cherie Calbom; Cherie you were telling me of a very prominent healing evangelist that did a study of the percentage of people that are physically healed and then lose their healing and I was shocked.  What did he find out?

Cherie:He found that only 5% of the people that were healed actually kept their healing.It was a study that was never published and I can’t share the name but I was shocked too to hear that percentage.

Sid:If that be true that’s just tragic, but what if there was a way, a simple way, of restructuring our health, our eating, our habits, and we could walk in the best supernatural healing that God has and have our body which I think is God’s greatest invention operate the way God created it to operate then we’d have the best of both worlds.

Cherie:Wellwe would and I’m so excited to be on your show and to be talking about this because it’s been the message that God has placed on my heart for years that we’ve got to teach the body of Christ how to live a lifestyle of divine health.  And that is where I believe lots of illness comes back; people are healed yes indeed and they go for prayer and they go right back to their old ways of eating and thinking and living and their illness comes back.  And I agree we must contend for our healing in prayer, but we must also do our part and that is the message on my heart.

Sid:How you’re a professional clinical nutritionist, you hold a master’s degree in nutrition at one of the finest universities that studies in this arena but that’s not why I’m interviewing you Cherie.  The reason that I’m interviewing you is when I found out how God supernaturally intervened in your life and called you to teach what you’re teaching that’s what excited me.  But for everyone to get to know you just a little bit better your father was an evangelist and something tragic happened, your mom developed cancer and your father had a healing ministry and she died from cancer.  And it was a very traumatictime for you and your family, but when you were in your late 20s you became extremely sick what happened to you?

Cherie:I did I had chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia and a severe case of it where I’d sleep 12 hours a day, get up tired, weak and sometimes have to crawl down the hall because I was that week. I couldn’t even work I had to quit my job to quit my job; I had to move back home with my father and step-mother and I was desperate.

Sid:Now what did the doctors say about this condition?

Cherie:They did not know what to do and I found mostly today they don’t know what to do about those conditions still.  There is no cure for those conditions.So I cried out to God “Help me please help me there’s got to be answer for what I’m suffering from.”That’s when in research I began to find out about vegetable juicing, changing my diet, eating more raw life foods and getting rid of all the junk.  And I’ll tell you I was a junk food lover; I liked to go to fast food restaurants and get my dinner and go home with my little bag.  I like to eat sugary granola for breakfast and my lunch was out a fast food restaurant usually when I left for work.  So no wonder I was getting sick and devastated as I was.So I got my first juicer, started juicing changed my whole diet and I’ll just make this story short now.  In three months I was completely healed.

Sid:Now why don’t doctors know this?  Why when they see these conditions all they can do it medicate you and say there’s no hope when all you did was juice with natural fruits and vegetables and in three months she got healed.  What’s wrong with that picture Cherie?

Cherie:It’s hugely wrong in this nation because we are driven by big pharma it’s called the pharmaceutical companies, and they have tight control over the textbooks and universities and medical schools.  Doctors are not trained in nutrition; we know that most doctors only receive one or two basic classes in nutrition and they don’t know anything beyond that.All they’re taught is pharmaceutical drugs for every condition out there. And when you come to toxicity in the body, when you come to chronic fatigue and things like that drugs will make most people worse.  So it’s getting back to the foods that God has given us and this is where our healing comes.

Sid:Now I could be wrong but it appears to me people are getting sicker and sicker. I was reading in some of your literature that this is happening because there have been changes in our pattern of eating over the years.  What were some of those changes?

Cherie:Well it started with the oils we used to have healthy oils from the tropics.Coconut oil and palm oil were considered the healthiest oils on earth and then we went to vegetable oils that were refined and heart disease came into full blown.  A bar graph you look at the jump in the bar graph in the fifties when the oils came on the markets full blown because of the war and the tropical oils couldn’t get through. And then soda pop came on the market in the fifties, all the chemicals that were used to preserve foods they began to hybridize grains putting gluten in wheat.

Sid:Is that why so many people today are gluten sensitive there’s more gluten in wheat?

Cherie:Yes, yes.You look back at Biblical times the bread was chewy why did they always dip their bread in something you know olive oil or whatever it was chewy it was hard.  Now our bread is soft and fluffy and too much gluten because they’ve hybrid the wheat too much and it’s making a lot of people very very ill.  And we have GMO genetically modified food; we have all this sprayed food, we don’t have organic real food we have things that are processed.

Sid:And now couple that with what’s happen with our health care system which used to be the best in the world they’re more doctors that are stopping practicing medicine.They’ll be more people in the health plan program, and people are getting sicker than ever; unless we rely on the supernatural and eating properly we’ll be the same victims as everyone else.

Cherie:We will and the church seems to be right there with the world; we should be the healthiest people on earth. I keep saying this everywhere I go “God’s people should be the healthiest people on the face of the earth and we’re not.”  We seem to be following the patterns of the world eating the way they do the junk food the fast food the processed food, the GMO food, the pesticides spayed stuff, and God’s people are getting sicker and sicker.  And you know what I’ve seen too they’re relying more and more on pharmaceutical drugs.

Sid:And most people know this but in one sentence what’s wrong with pharmaceutical drugs?

Cherie:We can’t rely on them because they do not heal us.As one doctor friend said to me years ago, I have never seen anybody in my practice deficient in a pharmaceutical drug.  (Laughing) It’s true, it’s so true we have this deficiency of nutrients we need and we have excess of stuff we don’t need.

Sid:Okay, we have gone through your material especially the brand new book that’s just off the press, the three best books you have and I’m going to call and a special DVD you’ve produced for us.  We’re going to call this series the healthiest people on the face of this earth.Step by step how to detox the major organs of your body, show you the best recipes for prevention and treatment of the most common health disorders.  How to lose weight, slow the aging process, conquerfatigue, mental clarity, improve your sleep, literally becoming healthier for life. What is it in your new book 400 recipes and we’ve tried some of them here and I can tell you as a fact that my staff has said and in fact I’ll use their words “Your recipes are yummy.”  How did you get such great recipes?

Cherie: Sid when I started out there weren’t hardly any recipes anywhere I had to just put stuff together in trial and error.  I had some stuff that tasted not too much better than motor oil.

Sid:(laughing)

Cherie: I have designed recipes that taste good that have lots of flavor and are really good for you. I’ve become known as the “Juice Lady” because I put so much effort into making delicious juices that people will just love to drink and will heal their bodies.

Sid:  Now let me make this clear it’s not just juice but whatever your condition is you list the various ailments that people have, and you show what are the natural things to take…it’s called “The Healthiest People on Earth.” That’s what it’s going to do for you.